Minneapolis City Council is defunding the police because calling the cops to report a burglary is white privilege.

[quote]Minneapolis City Council President Lisa Bender appeared on CNN this morning to discuss the council’s plan to dismantle the city’s police department in the wake of the George Floyd killing. What, you may ask, will replace the MPD? According to Bender, they will construct a “transformative new model of public safety.” Exactly what that means isn’t yet clear.

What was notable about Bender’s comments, though, was her response when CNN talking head Alisyn Camerota asked her what a citizen should do if someone breaks into their home in the middle of the night? Who should they call for help once the local cop shop has been repurposed as a social justice encounter space (or something similar)?

Here’s Bender’s answer:

Yes, I mean I hear that loud and clear from a lot of my neighbors. And I know — and myself too — and I know that that comes from a place of privilege. Because for those of us for whom the system is working, I think we need to step back and imagine what it would feel like to already live in that reality where calling the police may mean more harm is done.[/quote]

so it turns out the cop and Floyd had issues before this incident happened... so this wasn't an assault on some random black guy.. it was personal.. not racially motivated... so, can we expect an appology from BLM now..?? 😕

I'm just glad we have so many people that know so much about policing. It's heartwarming. 😂

[quote=MACS]I'm just glad we have so many people that know so much about policing. It's heartwarming. 😂[/quote]

It's all in the keyboard.

[quote=MACS]I'm just glad we have so many people that know so much about policing. It's heartwarming. 😂[/quote]

Welcome to my world.

I was in LE for 10 years, not so long ago but long ago enough that we could do our jobs the way they needed to be done.

I think what happened to GF was abhorrent. I am dumbfounded as to what that officer was thinking.

I agree that the unions generally have a "defend all actions at all costs" mentality. I think this stems form a real lack of purpose on their part. They charge dues, the members expect something in return besides a contract negotiation every 6 years.

I will also offer to anyone who who has not done so to contact your local PD and go for a ride along. Not a "6AM-2PM on a Tuesday" ride along, but ride on a midnight shift in the crappy part of town. At the worst, it will confirm your opinions, but at the best, you may gain some appreciation of the job.

99.99% of all the cops I worked with were good people who just wanted to do the job, help people out, take out the garbage and make the world a little better. Nothing any of us hated more than a cop who made us look bad or made our jobs harder.

Instead of decreasing funding to an overworked and underpaid profession, maybe it's time to increase their funding and actually recruit and pay the right candidates for the job and train them the way you want them to behave.

Also, I am not even going to dignify the original poster's "facts" with a response...

[quote=teedubbya]Welcome to my world.[/quote]

So modest.

[quote=Stogie1020]

...Also, I am not even going to dignify the original poster's "facts" with a response...[/quote]

See post number 29.

you specifically included the line "Here are some simple facts:"... and yet you don't even hint at not believing these to be facts.

I think it’s a great idea.

Let’s end civil forfeiture, militarized policing, and concentration of non violent victimless crimes.

Now past that.......you’re going to get mad max but I’m locked and loaded.

[quote=Stogie1020]you specifically included the line "Here are some simple facts:"... and yet you don't even hint at not believing these to be facts.[/quote]

[quote=Gene363]Some thoughts I found on this idea to discuss

"Here are some simple facts:...

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Sorry for the confusion, please note the quotation marks, " before the phrase, just like you used in you post.

I reiterate, "Some thoughts I found on this idea to discuss" I posted them, but they are not my ideas. FWIW, my initial reaction was, "Oh hell no!", but after reading the points above I understand not everyone see things the same way. I also knew jumping to conclusions, making assumptions based on who posts what and frankly poor reading comprehension is a rampant problem here. It does lead to some lively discussions.

Any state that wants to follow Minnesota go right ahead. But do so at your own peril. It is your economic death knell. The number of businesses that will be moving from war zone cities to relative saftey is going to be large. The very wealthy who live in places like the gold coast in Chicago will be leaving. You want dangerous neighborhood good will ambassadors instead of police? Welcome to Detroit. If Illinois goes this route, we gone. Probably the Tucson or Flagstaff suburbs, maybe Lake Tahoe on the Nevada side.