teedubbya
6 years ago
By the way tail this is a reasonable conversation. Too often it is not.
DrafterX
6 years ago
to spray or not to spray... 🤔
teedubbya
6 years ago

to spray or not to spray... 🤔

DrafterX wrote:



That is not the question. The real question is who and what to spray and how much.
tailgater
6 years ago

I'm ok with arguing implementation. Some of it has been stupid.... jade was saying the same.

I think some of the decisions were made not as your safe at piggly wiggly but rather food is something you will need access to so it is a necessary risk. Same with home depot. I had to go there during our stay at home to get a valve to repair my shower. The other option was just letting it leak for months.

Some of the decisions were nonsensical. Like you can take a boat on the water as long as there is no engine.

That is all debatable. I've said so all along. It's a tough balance and no one right answer. Best guess.

It's the idiots that try to minimize the virus when making those arguments that are an issue. They don't know of which they speak which makes it hard to listen to what they really want..... to be able to do whatever they want. They try to change the facts to support their opinion. This virus thing is sort of real, it is brutal and it is world wide. We are still learning about it but those things are certain.


teedubbya wrote:



Your last paragraph is what I would write about the politicians who are writing and implementing the rules.

How can anyone take this serious when rules read:
A: OK to go into Piggly Wiggly with 100 people.
B: Not OK to go into Joes Smoke Shop with 2 people.
C: OK to walk the aisles at Walmart.
D: Not OK to walk the sands at high tide.

Find the fake cuban.

Like you said on a previous thread, you see what you want to see.

I agree that too many of the "open up now" crowd don't take the virus seriously.
But that's the backlash for such ill conceived plans.
And when called out, most governing bodies fought back rather than address the issue. Until lawsuits were threatened. We can't ignore this.




tailgater
6 years ago

By the way tail this is a reasonable conversation. Too often it is not.

teedubbya wrote:



yeah.
Don't tell vic.


BuckyB93
6 years ago
Tail, it's not up for debate even though some pretend they are open for healthy discussion. The decision was made with no debate or discussion - executive order.

If you try to debate it it's because you are an immoral selfish racist prick that wants everyone to die (the wild card akin to taking the ball and going home). End of discussion, now go to your room and think about what you just did. You will get let you out when they are damn good and ready to let you out.
delta1
6 years ago

I thought of the other thing:

This whole nonsense of categorizing businesses as "essential".
We need to stop arbitrarily labeling and rather we should permit the reopening based on ability to meet certain criteria.
I don't care if you're a pharmacy. If you can't meet a reasonable and safe protocol then you shouldn't be open. And if you sell flavored cigarettes to underage kids, that's fine as long as you can do it safely.

A BBQ joint in a small town is different from a 5 star jazzy place in downtown.
Yet they're given the same status. The same time tables. Regardless of their ability to meet the new rules.

And I know it will suck for people in the big cities. But that doesn't mean everyone else should suffer unnecessarily.

This random and arbitrary labeling is counter productive. Massachusetts has screwed the pooch on this one. I can't think of a worse system and the governor is making it even worse with his last second power plays. You can't tell a business they can open on date XX, and then not offer the new regulations to allow them to open until that date arrives.
Yet here we are.
And because we're a blue state that likes to have the government stick it up our azz, we take it and ask for more.
It's pathetic.

tailgater wrote:




seems like what happened in MA was a good thing...numbers of infections and deaths are showing dramatic decreases there
tailgater
6 years ago

seems like what happened in MA was a good thing...numbers of infections and deaths are showing dramatic decreases there

delta1 wrote:



Survival of the fittest.
frankj1
6 years ago

Survival of the fittest.

tailgater wrote:


explain you and me then.
frankj1
6 years ago

Survival of the fattest.

tailgater wrote:


just reread, never mind
tailgater
6 years ago
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