delta1
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6 years ago
seems at least two members of 2nd Amendment libertarian anti-government groups fighting against tyranny have been involved in killing cops...

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-06-16/suspects-charged-killing-santa-cruz-cop-and-oakland-federal-officer 

suspects' social media accounts showed were associated with "boogaloo" and advocated civil war
victor809
6 years ago
Is the Boogaloo group a 2nd amendment group?
I just thought they were one of the standard Trump supporter groups (III%s, Proud Boys, Evropa etc.... cute ways of hiding neo nazis)
HockeyDad
6 years ago
I never even heard of the boogaloos until a few weeks ago. I thought they were those Insane Clown Posse people.
Krazeehorse
6 years ago
Depends on who you ask (and that's assuming those two things are mutually exclusive). Is BLM helpful or hateful?
izonfire
6 years ago

I never even heard of the boogaloos until a few weeks ago. I thought they were those Insane Clown Posse people.

HockeyDad wrote:


Those are the Juggalos.
But I thought the same thing when I first saw it.
delta1
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6 years ago

Is the Boogaloo group a 2nd amendment group?
I just thought they were one of the standard Trump supporter groups (III%s, Proud Boys, Evropa etc.... cute ways of hiding neo nazis)

victor809 wrote:



according to the CSUSB professor who studies far-right extremists, they are...as are the New Mexico Civil Guard that was involved in a shooting at a BLM protest yesterday...

their dress code includes Hawaiian shirts...dammmm, I got a closet full of them
delta1
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6 years ago

Depends on who you ask (and that's assuming those two things are mutually exclusive). Is BLM helpful or hateful?

Krazeehorse wrote:




seems most Americans, recent poll shows about 70%, support the BLM...

not sure how many support militias/2nd Amendment groups...not all are extreme right white nationalists, like those in the boogaloo movement...
ZRX1200
6 years ago
Jesus Al are you kidding me?

It’s amazing the 💩posting that gets taking and used as fact.....

LA Times is a bastion of free thought though.

Many Antifa are pro2A.
Speyside
6 years ago
Delta, it isn't about level of support. I support BLM, though the name really should be BLMT. I don't tolerate white supremacists. Also are black supremacists part of BLM? Or are they just scumbags of a different color?

What it is about is constitutional rights. Every American has the same ones. If we choose to ignore that we are no longer a nation of law. How is the constitution interpreted? That is open to debate. That everyone whether you love the or hate them has the same rights is not open for debate.
Mr. Jones
6 years ago
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Mr. Jones
6 years ago
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delta1
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6 years ago

Delta, it isn't about level of support. I support BLM, though the name really should be BLMT. I don't tolerate white supremacists. Also are black supremacists part of BLM? Or are they just scumbags of a different color?

What it is about is constitutional rights. Every American has the same ones. If we choose to ignore that we are no longer a nation of law. How is the constitution interpreted? That is open to debate. That everyone whether you love the or hate them has the same rights is not open for debate.

Speyside wrote:





agreed, but the 2nd Amendment folks, for the most part, say their purpose for armed existence is to fight a tyrannical government...

some of them protested in MI, VA and MD over stay at home orders and a number of 2nd Amendment supporters here said they were alright with that...they were exercising their 1st Amendment rights...OK, I'm fine, but question the need for a public display of armed resistance while protesting...increases the chance of bad things happening

then POTUS threatens to use the US military to stop Americans from protesting, exercising their 1st Amendment rights...he used police and National Guard troops to push peaceful protesters out of the way, so he could walk to a church a block away so he could hold up a Bible and have his picture taken...

in a gesture that re-affirms our faith in the military not being a part of a tyrannical government (for the time being), leaders of the military in the WH administration and past military leaders condemned Trump's actions and said the US military will not be used to deny American citizens the right to exercise their Constitutional rights, that the mission of the US Military is to defend the Constitution, not to serve the POTUS...

2nd Amendment folks SEE and HEAR the POTUS threaten the very thing that is their reason for being...silence

then, a 2nd Amendment guy in New Mexico confronts some protesters and gets knocked down...he comes up shooting and hits a protester...silence...

I suspect that if Trump did send in the US military to dominate the cities and take away millions of American's 1st Amendment rights, the 2nd Amendment guys would take a knee...
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