victor809
6 years ago

You don't have to believe in God but do you have a moral code you live by, where did they come from? The Gubment?
Or maybe because you reject religion offhand, you reject any moral principles defining right from wrong?
I sure as heck can decide whether a person is honourable or a lying, hypocritical scoundrel based their words and deeds, or is that illegal now?

RayR wrote:



Wow. from zero to "the lib-ruls won't let me decide if a person is a lying scoundrel!" in 4 lines.


1 - If you need a religion to have morals, you're a terrible person innately.
2 - I did not say you cannot decide whether a person is ... whatever you wrote. I said it isn't my business to decide if they are a devout catholic. All that requires is that they believe in their god. That's something only an idiot would question... since it cannot be proven.
DrafterX
6 years ago
ya, it's nobody's bidness but his own if Victor patterns his life with Twilight Sparkles... 😟
victor809
6 years ago

ya, it's nobody's bidness but his own if Victor patterns his life with Twilight Sparkles... 😟

DrafterX wrote:



yeah!

Thanks drafter. I knew you had my back.
DrafterX
6 years ago
πŸ‘



freak....
JadeRose
6 years ago

I blame the Jews.

CelticBomber wrote:




Yo! Semites!
HockeyDad
6 years ago

ya, it's nobody's bidness but his own if Victor patterns his life with Twilight Sparkles... 😟

DrafterX wrote:



Was that one of those vampire movies?
CelticBomber
6 years ago

You don't have to believe in God but do you have a moral code you live by, where did they come from? The Gubment?
Or maybe because you reject religion offhand, you reject any moral principles defining right from wrong?
I sure as heck can decide whether a person is honourable or a lying, hypocritical scoundrel based their words and deeds, or is that illegal now?

RayR wrote:




Huh.. interesting. Not well thought out but, interesting.

Because he rejects religion he rejects any morals? But, you can decide whether a person is honorable or not by their words and deeds... just because?

Which religion should we get our morals from? The one that demands slavery? The one that demands death to unbelievers? The one that sets the rules for selling your daughters? The one that demands blood sacrifice? The one that demands you suffer for your God? The one that demands you drink the blood and eat the flesh of your God? Etc. etc. etc.

The argument for the high moral ground from religion is an old tired one. It's also a bad one. Pick your poison. Show me the book that you get your morality from and I bet you a dollar there are pages you wouldn't want me to quote from.


[gofishin]

CelticBomber
6 years ago

ya, it's nobody's bidness but his own if Victor patterns his life with Twilight Sparkles... 😟

DrafterX wrote:




I used to dance under that name back in the 80's.
victor809
6 years ago

I dance in that costume on the vherf

CelticBomber wrote:


RayR
6 years ago

Huh.. interesting. Not well thought out but, interesting.

Because he rejects religion he rejects any morals? But, you can decide whether a person is honorable or not by their words and deeds... just because?

Which religion should we get our morals from? The one that demands slavery? The one that demands death to unbelievers? The one that sets the rules for selling your daughters? The one that demands blood sacrifice? The one that demands you suffer for your God? The one that demands you drink the blood and eat the flesh of your God? Etc. etc. etc.

The argument for the high moral ground from religion is an old tired one. It's also a bad one. Pick your poison. Show me the book that you get your morality from and I bet you a dollar there are pages you wouldn't want me to quote from.


[gofishin]

CelticBomber wrote:



I didn't get into this to have some philosophical investigations of different religions. Let me see...are you mad at me too just because I referred to Biden, Pelosi and Cuomo as lying, hypocritical thieving scoundrels? Religion aside, that's what they are and I'm sticking too it. I'll wait for someone to try to disprove it....ya right.

It's a fair question as to how you evolved your morals. Did Santa Clause give them to you? The Tooth Fairy maybe? Did the legislature force them on you in a law? Did mommy and daddy beat them into your head? Did they spring forth from the soil? All I got from Victor was a non-answer. I surmise too it's none of his business what the politicians he votes for, stands for, morally, politically and economically.
victor809
6 years ago
Sigh. You conflate too many things together, and draw conclusions where there are none.

You are conflating calling someone a thief with questioning their religious devotion. That is a logical error. No one here has told you not to think any specific politician is corrupt. If you choose any one randomly you'll have a 98.2% chance (you're new here, so I'll let you know, 98.2% means a made up statistic) that you'll be correct. That is not the same as saying "Hah! Like RayR is a devout christian!" Whatever the hell any idiot does with their religion is between them and their god. Even an atheist like me understands that.

As for your "non-answer". You really don't understand how dumb the whole "You don't have to believe in God but do you have a moral code you live by, where did they come from? " question is? Because what you're saying in that question is that you do not have a moral code of your own, and you define things as good or bad based solely on whether it's in your religious text. That means to the rest of us that if a religious leader starts telling you it's good to start raping the atheists, you'd be totes down with it.

Get your own moral code dude. Learn to identify what is right and wrong on your own, not because it's in some religious text, not because some government tells you it is. Learn to do it yourself. Your question shows us you don't have that ability yet.
CelticBomber
6 years ago

I didn't get into this to have some philosophical investigations of different religions. Let me see...are you mad at me too just because I referred to Biden, Pelosi and Cuomo as lying, hypocritical thieving scoundrels? Religion aside, that's what they are and I'm sticking too it. I'll wait for someone to try to disprove it....ya right.

It's a fair question as to how you evolved your morals. Did Santa Clause give them to you? The Tooth Fairy maybe? Did the legislature force them on you in a law? Did mommy and daddy beat them into your head? Did they spring forth from the soil? All I got from Victor was a non-answer. I surmise too it's none of his business what the politicians he votes for, stands for, morally, politically and economically.

RayR wrote:




Huh, I don't remember referring to any politicians. I do find it interesting that all your references to where my morality came from are external. Following your line of thinking you must have had to have been caged until you were old enough to have your morality imposed upon you from some magic book. Otherwise you'd have been ravening and pillaging across the country until you were old enough to be given your morals. I can see it now! Hordes of rugrats rampaging across the country because they can't read! No illiterate child has ever expressed love, compassion, empathy, kindness or any kind of decency. Right? No atheist has ever been a moral person? If you believe that, that's not very Christian of you. Tsk! tsk! What was that line again? Judge not..... :-"

What am I supposed to be mad about again?


(I mean... seriously? I even used the giant fishing emoji! HAH! I can't get the image of a horde of toddlers going all Braveheart across the world out of my head! I guess those kids are all Yo! Semites.)
DrafterX
6 years ago
Atheist chicks are hot... 🍺
CelticBomber
6 years ago

That means to the rest of us that if a religious leader starts telling you it's good to start raping the atheists, you'd be totes down with it.

victor809 wrote:




I've changed my mind. I'd join that religion! Where do I sign?
victor809
6 years ago

I've changed my mind. I'd join that religion! Where do I sign?

CelticBomber wrote:



gonna have to ask RayR.... But until you join officially, I'd maybe watch yourself around him.
Speyside
6 years ago
Wow, this thread sure denigrated into to religious bigots expounding on the fallacy that their belief system is correct and everyone one else is wrong. Boys, go to your church, don't practice social distancing and don't wear masks. Good luck! I will hang with the sinners who improve humanity, not the pious who diminish humanity. BTW, lots of people who believe in God don't share your POV. Oh DG a practicing Buddhist is like a rosary? That wins stupid statement of the decade.
Speyside
6 years ago
That is the only inference I can draw from that sentence because I never mentioned a Buddha.
ZRX1200
6 years ago
β€œBoys go to your church”

Well the bill Biden supports (which is what this whole quote from Trump is about) is something the government has no business doing.

RayR
6 years ago
All I hear is Blah de da Blah de Blah de Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah!

So how many Marxist Progressives do we have here? I know there's always left religionists about hiding.
victor809
6 years ago
So he's got nothing.

Just decided that since someone is atheist they must also be marxist progressives.

What was that I said about conflating arguments and drawing conclusions where there are none?
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