I"m no expert Robert, but I did spend the night at a Holiday Inn Express, so even I know the blanket statement alleging white supremacy to be inherent among Christians and Jews does not rise to the level of meriting a serious response.

fiddler898 wrote:

Biden in his dementia fueled ramblings supports BLM. BLM is an organization who’s ideology is founded on Critical Race Theory. Critical Race Theory states that Western Civilization and Religion (Christianity definitely & Judaism presumably but that’s not clearly spelled out for unknown reasons) are inherently white supremacist and oppress people of color. The only way to end this oppression is to end western civ and religion. Not actively being involved in doing so proves you’re a white supremacist or “white adjacent” is a POC (aka you’re a brainwashed Uncle T).

Ipso ergo facto, Biden’s public policy positions are anti-God.

I’m sure somebody will be along shortly to tell me I’m wrong, but the above isn’t an opinion of mine. It’s simply what the academic sub-discipline of Critical Theory, critical race theory clearly spells out in their peer reviewed academic journals & books published on the subject by the leading voices of the movement.

BLM clearly and unequivocally voices their agreement with the above on their website.

Ya’ll so terrified of being called a mean word & desperate to get rid of T$ you’re making a deal with the devil.

2020 can’t end soon enough...

HemingwayOcho wrote:

jumping from "western civilization is based on white supremacy and oppression" to "the only way to end it is to end western civilization and religion" is a hell of a leap there. Sounds like something you would have picked up on that idiot's show where he puts things on a white board and pretends to draw connections between it.

victor809 wrote:

I summarized (in part) the theory as formulated by them. It’s not my opinion or speculation, it’s what they believe.

Critical Theory is an academic discipline in humanities departments. It’s clearly and unequivocally spelled out in numerous books and academic journals. Research it yourself.

It’s very telling how rarely anyone is willing to debate the validity of critical theory and resort to attacking the credibility of the messenger.

HemingwayOcho wrote:

I had to look up critical race theory, never heard of it before. I skimmed the wikipedia entry, it didn't explicitly link the theory to religion, though I could see how you could make that leap.

From my understanding of the claim is that you don't need any individual racist to have an inherently racist system if the racism was built into the system at the start... or something along those lines.

Had to go back and read the new guy's post... I think we interpreted it differently...

bgz wrote:

I understand that Critical Theory is an academic discipline. I also understand that Critical Race Theory is a spin off of that. I didn't dispute that these things exist. I don't think they necessarily exist in the form you appear to believe they exist, but I'm sure like any philosophy someone can find a philosopher willing to take some idea to the extremes.

However, I'd like to see some evidence that BLM intends to "end western civilization and religion" before I just take your word on it, internet stranger who believes in an invisible friend.

victor809 wrote:

Lulz. It exists but nobody actually believes any of it, it’s all in your head. Little idiot that needs fairy tales to cope with the world.

Gas lighting & appeal to ridicule & shifting of burden of proof back to me all rolled into one. Strong move.

HemingwayOcho wrote:

Wow. Lots of nonsense there.
All I have done is ask you to provide evidence of your statement that BLM intends to "end western civilization and religion"

And based on that you say I need "fairy tales to cope with the world"? I think it's been well established I am not religious.

I have not gas lighted you. I haven't stated anything as fact regarding either Critical Theory or Critical Race Theory, and I've only asked you to provide evidence for your statements. Technically, you are attempting to gaslight me by accusing me of being a "little idiot who needs fairy tales" for simply asking you to prove your frankly somewhat unbelievable claims.

The burden of proof has not been "shifted back to you". It never left you. You made a claim. You have a burden of proof to in some small way support that claim. You haven't done that yet.

victor809 wrote:

Man... you're all over the place.

First, let's look at Critical Race Theory. The primary foundation of Critical Race Theory is that a system itself can support racism. Basic Critical Race Theory does not say one must deconstruct western civilization and religion. I'm sure someone out there has chosen to come to that conclusion based on the idea that the systems in place are racist, but that doesn't make it a tenet of Critical Race Theory.

Second, you seem to believe that Critical Race Theory has "tenets". It's a philosophical framework, not a political philosophy. Critical Race Theory is not Marxism. I see no evidence that one has to believe everything every social studies paper on Critical Race Theory writes, or you're no longer a "Critical Race Theorist". You've chosen to accumulate in your own mind what you think everyone who believes some of this framework must believe. There is no reason why they would have to.

Third, you have not provided evidence that BLM as an organization even supports parts of the philosophy of Critical Race Theory. Some of their activism may have been inspired by it, but nowhere do they say they follow Critical Race Theory as a philosophy. One may find Nietzsche to be interesting, and use his theories to make some decisions in their life, that doesn't mean they believe they are the ubermensch.

It goes without saying that since you haven't even provided evidence that BLM supports any part of the philosophy, you have also not provided any evidence that they would be supporting any of the other aspects which demand the deconstruction of western civilization.

So you have provided no evidence, other than the fact that there is a philosophical framework called Critical Race Theory, and there is a philosophical framework called Critical Theory. That's very literally the extent of what has been established. Start there.

victor809 wrote:

I'm still stunned by him feeling insulted and personally attacked when I said he's breakfast savvy.

frankj1 wrote:

I myself would be tickled...

izonfire wrote: