DrafterX
5 years ago
DrMaddVibe
5 years ago

No, I did not post it, I commented.
Because Trump is a crook who has lots of foolish followers.

Brewha wrote:




A crook?

Better call the cops or better yet call Shifty Schiff!!!

[frypan]
frankj1
5 years ago
taxes were either done within legal limits or not, I don't think tax cheating is really the problem by itself for the Trumps, we'll see eventually but not soon.

What I have been wondering about for a few years now is if there's any fire around the smoke regarding undervaluing properties for taxes and then overvaluing them for loans...hello DeutscheBank?
No other bank that I am aware of in the free world would loan one shekel to him anymore, and that goes back several years.

It's one thing to admire what one thinks are clever business practices to avoid paying taxes, but it's another to also admire intentional bankruptcies as ways to avoid paying banks AND other businesses that also provide Americans with jobs for their families. Many have gone out of business because they could not afford the years of chasing in court. Beating same-industry competition is one thing, destroying vendors and (sub) contractors by not honoring one's word/contractual obligation is quite another.

Legal? Perhaps.
But to admire someone for that?
Not me.
HockeyDad
5 years ago
I would not advise admiring politicians or businessmen.

Oh and....shekels...seriously. Banks don’t loan shekels.
MACS
rfenst
5 years ago

I would not advise admiring politicians or businessmen.

Oh and....shekels...seriously. Banks don’t loan shekels.

HockeyDad wrote:


You must be using the wrong bank.
Stogie1020
5 years ago

Trumps businesses are catastrophes. Huge losers. Biggly.

That's the trick - He just keeps selling himself as the best of the best, the smartest, and the only one who can really be successful with other peoples money.

And the fools line up to believe him.

Brewha wrote:



Tell me, exactly, how you saw the P&Ls for each of his companies going back ten years?

Because if you didn't see them, you really don't have a basis to make that statement. That just makes you a card carrying member of the "Orange man bad" club.
Smooth light
5 years ago
The american way, you got to pay, I'll find a way to get it for free, plus pay me to do it 🤭.

Give me a hamburger 🍔 today and I'll pay you Tuesday.

Who's the best crook?🤑
frankj1
5 years ago

The american way, you got to pay, I'll find a way to get it for free, plus pay me to do it 🤭.

Give me a hamburger 🍔 today and I'll pay you Tuesday.

Who's the best crook?🤑

Smooth light wrote:


and yet just a week or so ago you commented your surprise to learn that you and I shared a sense of morality in business dealings.

I think you may have fallen off the wagon.
tonygraz
5 years ago
And landed hard on his head.
Smooth light
5 years ago
I didn't say it was morally correct, it's just the way people think it is.
frankj1
5 years ago

I didn't say it was morally correct, it's just the way people think it is.

Smooth light wrote:


fair enough.
would you care to call it not morally correct?
Smooth light
5 years ago
Brewha
5 years ago

Tell me, exactly, how you saw the P&Ls for each of his companies going back ten years?

Because if you didn't see them, you really don't have a basis to make that statement. That just makes you a card carrying member of the "Orange man bad" club.

Stogie1020 wrote:


Please.
I was born in New Jersey - I know a crook when I see one.

But to be fair, is there really any sufficient proof to put off a Trump minion?

"And the people bowed and prayed, to the Orange God they made..."
frankj1
5 years ago

Definitely

Smooth light wrote:


that took some guts, considering our gang here.
tonygraz
5 years ago

Please.


"And the people bowed and prayed, to the Orange God they made..."

Brewha wrote:



I'm stealing that one !
delta1
5 years ago

:-k

Why is the IRS not fining him if this story was correct?


Yeah...more fake news.


Eat it up TDS'ers

DrMaddVibe wrote:



ummmm....because he's the Boss of the IRS and the Boss of the DOJ, who would be prosecuting, but he's the POTUS...

and he's gonna pardon himself before he walks out the door, so they'll never charge his cheating fraudulant lying azz...


let's see what happens in New York state court when he's not POTUS anymore...
Smooth light
5 years ago
Backbone is a thing, humility too. It's easy when you try to live it.
Frankj1 that's SMOOTH light 🥂.
rfenst
5 years ago

:-k

Why is the IRS not fining him if this story was correct?


Yeah...more fake news.


Eat it up TDS'ers

DrMaddVibe wrote:


IIRC from the article, his current, most significant tax dispute right now is the approximate $70 million refund he received. If he loses, he will have to pay over $100 million in principal, interest and penalties, unless he can cut a good deal in the matter,
frankj1
5 years ago
I have a feeling most of his taxes are in line, maybe a few deductions get disallowed (can you have your daughter on salary AND pay her as a consultant?)...but that can happen to anyone with complicated returns.

The truth is he's been trying to hide his tax/income info not cuz he cheated, but because he doesn't want everyone to know he has been a failure in business, it's important to him to perpetuate the lie and his image.

Saved by the TV show and subsequent selling of his name/fame from it, but never won running his businesses...which has been pretty well known to anyone who has been aware of him and his M.O. over the decades.

Our POTUS made half a mil hawking Dominoes Pizza! Is four years too long to be a mini-series?
(should it be are four years...)?
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