rfenst
5 years ago

Hey look I know this whole condemning white supremacy/nazism is the current “stick to the wall” item for the week but did anybody notice during all this that the leader of the Proud Boys is a black/Latino?

HockeyDad wrote:


I did not notice that, but I did know of Black members.
DrafterX
5 years ago
So, Biden labeled them white supremacists just because they like Trump... and everyone believes it.... 🤔
8trackdisco
5 years ago

for #50

if you understood me a while back you wouldn't think you are paraphrasing me. Why you think I'm wrong to keep heightened emotion from our system of justice is bewildering to me.

now, if these reprobates commit crimes, I would still insist on proper use of our system of justice.
And as undigestible as the thought might be, even a "not guilty" verdict protects both of us...

frankj1 wrote:



Frank,
Never said “heighten emotion” should be the basis for which justice is distributed. People started fires on purpose, burned people to death, cost untold millions (probably billions when you work in the environmental impacts). There is no redeeming value in that person. For me, a bullet makes sense. You saw it differently. Admittedly, you took the high ground.

Now it’s about dog whistles, white supremists/nazis and anti-semites. I’m only asking, are you still good with that same measuring stick? Instead of 33 fire victims, it becomes 33 gun fire victims. Still calmly line up a jury of their peers, right?

Multiply that by 10 real bad apples; now you are at 333 gunfire victims. 100 = 3,333.

You’re still good with simple orderly trials? So be it.

The country is better off without either Antifa or the PB.

Basic math of addition by subtraction.

At the end of the day, with social media working like the devil to get everybody into two camps (like Democrats & Republicans) or Antifa & Proud Boys, it all seems to just be a matter of time.

I’ll be on the sidelines. Not taking a knee, nor standing down/ready.
CelticBomber
5 years ago

well, they are a terrorist organization and clearly left.... you'd think he wouldn't even have to be asked.... 😟

DrafterX wrote:




Trump was asked.... still didn't do it.
8trackdisco
5 years ago

Hey look I know this whole condemning white supremacy/nazism is the current “stick to the wall” item for the week but did anybody notice during all this that the leader of the Proud Boys is a black/Latino?

HockeyDad wrote:



They have a forward thinking, aggressive diversity and inclusion program maybe?

In our New Normal, we need to be able to quickly pivot.

Having a non white, white supreme shows they are all about... inclusion? 🤨
frankj1
5 years ago

Frank,
Never said “heighten emotion” should be the basis for which justice is distributed. People started fires on purpose, burned people to death, cost untold millions (probably billions when you work in the environmental impacts). There is no redeeming value in that person. For me, a bullet makes sense. You saw it differently. Admittedly, you took the high ground.

Now it’s about dog whistles, white supremists/nazis and anti-semites. I’m only asking, are you still good with that same measuring stick? Instead of 33 fire victims, it becomes 33 gun fire victims. Still calmly line up a jury of their peers, right?

Multiply that by 10 real bad apples; now you are at 333 gunfire victims. 100 = 3,333.

You’re still good with simple orderly trials? So be it.

The country is better off without either Antifa or the PB.

Basic math of addition by subtraction.

At the end of the day, with social media working like the devil to get everybody into two camps (like Democrats & Republicans) or Antifa & Proud Boys, it all seems to just be a matter of time.

I’ll be on the sidelines. Not taking a knee, nor standing down/ready.

8trackdisco wrote:


a bullet makes sense in N. Korea, Iran, China, Russia...need I go further to explain why your thinking is against everything that makes us superior? Once we adopt what you propose, our worst adversaries have won.
To the big question, yup, even the most heinous, make that especially the most heinous, must go through our system to make sure you don't get dragged out by the scruff of your neck in the middle of the night by a different administration.

You and I like each other, get a kick out of each other's humor, have friends in common, and would have the bestest time herfing for sure. But right now is the worst time for me to get involved in this. It's my fault that it has gone this far for me but I have to pull back for a few days, maybe more, maybe less. Just want you to know I love this stuff and I am not fleeing nor avoiding. My attention is required elsewhere.
Smooth light
5 years ago
Chris"swamp 🐊"Wallace,ask the same question four years ago, Trump answer the same way. He's hard of hearing or payed to ask it again,or just trying to set him up. It didn't work then and it didn't work now.

Rerun's to get a fake narrative for the fake news. Same old codswallop.💩
DrafterX
5 years ago

Trump was asked.... still didn't do it.

CelticBomber wrote:




Declaring the KKK and Antifas a terrorist organization isn't enough.. ?? 😕
Smooth light
5 years ago
Dead issue, redundancy does not earn you any points, but their still trying
rfenst
5 years ago

a bullet makes sense in N. Korea, Iran, China, Russia...need I go further to explain why your thinking is against everything that makes us superior? Once we adopt what you propose, our worst adversaries have won.
To the big question, yup, even the most heinous, make that especially the most heinous, must go through our system to make sure you don't get dragged out by the scruff of your neck in the middle of the night by a different administration.

You and I like each other, get a kick out of each other's humor, have friends in common, and would have the bestest time herfing for sure. But right now is the worst time for me to get involved in this. It's my fault that it has gone this far for me but I have to pull back for a few days, maybe more, maybe less. Just want you to know I love this stuff and I am not fleeing nor avoiding. My attention is required elsewhere.

frankj1 wrote:


You and Drafter are needed in D.C.
8trackdisco
5 years ago

a bullet makes sense in N. Korea, Iran, China, Russia...need I go further to explain why your thinking is against everything that makes us superior? Once we adopt what you propose, our worst adversaries have won.
To the big question, yup, even the most heinous, make that especially the most heinous, must go through our system to make sure you don't get dragged out by the scruff of your neck in the middle of the night by a different administration.

You and I like each other, get a kick out of each other's humor, have friends in common, and would have the bestest time herfing for sure. But right now is the worst time for me to get involved in this. It's my fault that it has gone this far for me but I have to pull back for a few days, maybe more, maybe less. Just want you to know I love this stuff and I am not fleeing nor avoiding. My attention is required elsewhere.

frankj1 wrote:



No problem, Frank. I like and respect you. No worries there, I’m not taking it personally. If you’d prefer, when time permits we can connect offline.

Let me truly take the extreme side of the Extreme discussion.

If, knowing what history has revealed, if you had a chance, would you have put a bullet into the side of the head of the young, brown shirted, WW 1 veteran in Germany after the Night of Broken Glass?
RayR
5 years ago

Declaring the KKK and Antifas a terrorist organization isn't enough.. ?? 😕

DrafterX wrote:



It'll never be enough for the TDS infected.
Trump signed a joint resolution condemning nazis, white supremacists and such 3 years ago

He condemned racism, bigotry and white supremacy last year.


He denounced hate groups repeatedly over the years


No matter, all down the pea brained progressive memory hole. The past is irrelevant, there is only the present.
frankj1
5 years ago

You and Drafter are needed in D.C.

rfenst wrote:


no. yahrzeit at sundown today...
tonygraz
5 years ago
delta1
5 years ago

It'll never be enough for the TDS infected.
Trump signed a joint resolution condemning nazis, white supremacists and such 3 years ago

He condemned racism, bigotry and white supremacy last year.



He denounced hate groups repeatedly over the years


No matter, all down the pea brained progressive memory hole. The past is irrelevant, there is only the present.

RayR wrote:




if he is so practiced and committed to that belief, why does it always take him a coupla three days and intense pressure from his political analysts to issue those definitive denunciations after refusing to do so in real time?
HockeyDad
5 years ago

if he is so practiced and committed to that belief, why does it always take him a coupla three days and intense pressure from his political analysts to issue those definitive denunciations after refusing to do so in real time?

delta1 wrote:



So your issue is his repetitive speed is not quick enough?
RayR
5 years ago

if he is so practiced and committed to that belief, why does it always take him a coupla three days and intense pressure from his political analysts to issue those definitive denunciations after refusing to do so in real time?

delta1 wrote:



Trump likes specific definitions of things he's not aware of, "Proud Boys" was not in his dictionary.
I can understand, I read Michael Malice's book, "The New Right, A Journey to the Fringe of American Politics"
There's a lot of fringy people and groups out there that I wasn't aware of either.
Smooth light
5 years ago
If they twist everything he does, like every drop he squeeze out to the 10drgree for hate, but it's just piss and they drink it all, no questions asked.
That's why Mr delta1
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