teedubbya
5 years ago

Minimize and condone things? You and others seem to be running around from post to post demanding the right wingers take some sort of anti-qanon loyalty pledge. You basically are accusing everyone of being qanon followers and can’t seem to fathom that many people have simply never wasted any time related to qanon.




HockeyDad wrote:




I'm not accusing you or everyone of being Qanon followers or asking for a loyalty pledge. I'm accusing you of minimizing what is going on. You thought the insurgency was a frat party. Qanon is worth being aware of especially since aware or not it is feeding peoples opinions.

Purposely trying not to be aware of them or pretending not to be aware of them doesn't change things. It allows you to be disingenuous and intellectually dishonest while accusing others of virtue signaling.
Speyside
5 years ago
HD is not a follower, is he Q?
teedubbya
5 years ago
He just knows nothing about them. He's simply not informed but informed enough to call others virtue signalers and be dismissive LOL
teedubbya
5 years ago
With the money to me made off the Q crowd I can't help but think he is being less than honest.
HockeyDad
5 years ago

I'm not accusing you or everyone of being Qanon followers or asking for a loyalty pledge. I'm accusing you of minimizing what is going on. You thought the insurgency was a frat party. Qanon is worth being aware of especially since aware or not it is feeding peoples opinions.

Purposely trying not to be aware of them or pretending not to be aware of them doesn't change things. It allows you to be disingenuous and intellectually dishonest while accusing others of virtue signaling.

teedubbya wrote:



And just what is going on? You bought into the whole insurgency narrative. When the tanks leave the army forts you got yourself an insurgency. What we have is a riot being maximized for political gain. That’s fair game and the Republicans are the big losers. Its fine if you want to be spun up and go on a qanon witch-hunt. That’s fine but when I hear things like Jew lasers setting the California forest fires I tend to tune out. I don’t give credence to crazies.

Here’s a hypothetical: if somebody was bought into the qanon conspiracy theory for a while and then decided it was stupid, how long should their punishment be?
HockeyDad
5 years ago

HD is not a follower, is he Q?

Speyside wrote:



I heard it is Ray.
HockeyDad
5 years ago

He just knows nothing about them. He's simply not informed but informed enough to call others virtue signalers and be dismissive LOL

teedubbya wrote:



You do know that virtue signaling is a good thing?!
DrafterX
5 years ago
Speaking of punishments, I heard Tom Brady is getting dragged thru the mud for not apologizing for supporting Trump... 😟
teedubbya
5 years ago

You do know that virtue signaling is a good thing?!

HockeyDad wrote:




Actually I think it could be either. I didn't place a value.
teedubbya
5 years ago

And just what is going on? You bought into the whole insurgency narrative. When the tanks leave the army forts you got yourself an insurgency. What we have is a riot being maximized for political gain. That’s fair game and the Republicans are the big losers. Its fine if you want to be spun up and go on a qanon witch-hunt. That’s fine but when I hear things like Jew lasers setting the California forest fires I tend to tune out. I don’t give credence to crazies.

Here’s a hypothetical: if somebody was bought into the qanon conspiracy theory for a while and then decided it was stupid, how long should their punishment be?

HockeyDad wrote:




I haven't talked about punishing anyone for their thoughts. It was an insurgency whether you classify it as such or not. You have minimized it as a frat party since day 1. I didn't suggest a witch hunt or any other of trumps favorite buzz words. I don't give credence to crazies either and find it hard to believe they exist. I expect others to be intelligent and logical. Sometimes they are not. Sometimes that rises to dangerous. Sometimes it bleeds in to mainstream and folks dont even realize where it came from

I think it has crossed in to that territory. That doesn't mean I think everything has. That is a lazy thought process. It's also lazy not to really take a look at it and dismiss it because it's not convenient.

RobertHively
5 years ago
It was just like Pearl Harbor, or D-Day.
RobertHively
5 years ago
No? Hey, I tried.
teedubbya
5 years ago
Or lawrence or harpers ferry or munich
HockeyDad
5 years ago
DrafterX
5 years ago
Nobody ever thinks about the Somali pirates... 😞
HockeyDad
5 years ago
I’m just glad the Somali pirates didn’t storm the Capitol.
delta1
5 years ago
Captain Phillips...calling Captain Phillips...
delta1
5 years ago
HD...it is apparent that the large majority of GOP are not QAnon followers, white supremacists or over-zealous gun worshipping anti-government militias...

but when those fringe groups become part of the GOP, and say and do things that cross civil or criminal lines, without being rebuked by the GOP, they become a part of the GOP's identity...

in local politics in some places, that is acceptable, even expected...


but it won't play in some toss-up states or on the national stage...we shall see in 2020...

I could be way off base...just as I never thought that extremists on the far right would storm into the nation's capitol, kill and injure police officers and hold the building and its occupants, the nation's legislative body, hostage for many hours, while the POTUS stood back and watched them on TV, never thinking that he had responsibility and authority to restore order...
teedubbya
5 years ago
Screw the Somali pirates they kidnapped Jenny and stuff.
frankj1
5 years ago

HD...it is apparent that the large majority of GOP are not QAnon followers, white supremacists or over-zealous gun worshipping anti-government militias...

but when those fringe groups become part of the GOP, and say and do things that cross civil or criminal lines, without being rebuked by the GOP, they become a part of the GOP's identity...

in local politics in some places, that is acceptable, even expected...


but it won't play in some toss-up states or on the national stage...we shall see in 2020...

I could be way off base...just as I never thought that extremists on the far right would storm into the nation's capitol, kill and injure police officers and hold the building and its occupants, the nation's legislative body, hostage for many hours, while the POTUS stood back and watched them on TV, never thinking that he had responsibility and authority to restore order...

delta1 wrote:


you lie!
he told them it was time to stop and go home several hours later

do we know what Stone was doing there before the attack on democracy?
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