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delta1
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5 years ago

#41

paragraph 7 from article rfenst quoted in #39 ^

"The latest eruption of violence began a month ago in Jerusalem, where heavy-handed police tactics during the Muslim holy month of Ramadan and the threatened eviction of dozens of Palestinian families by Jewish settlers ignited protests and clashes with police. A focal point was the Al-Aqsa Mosque compound, a site sacred to Jews and Muslims.
Hamas, claiming to be defending Jerusalem, launched a barrage of rockets at the city late Monday, escalating the ground tensions into a new Israel-Hamas punching match."

Edited by user 5 years ago | Reason: Not specified

Dg west deptford
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5 years ago

#42

Pray for the peace of Isreal

3rd Temple coming soon

Speyside
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5 years ago

#43

Israel needs to end Hamas whatever it takes. Any court that calls attacking legitimate military targets a war crime is a joke. The cowardly tactic of placing a military objective in the middle of a civilization population is the real war crime. Maybe all of the Mideastern world jihadists will band together so we can end them once and for all.

HockeyDad
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5 years ago

#44

Pray for the peace of Isreal

3rd Temple coming soon

Dg west deptford wrote:

It’s the end of the world as we know it.

MACS
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5 years ago

#45

Think you may have misinterpreted what I said, Stephen. Trump supported Israel. Biden not so much. I think his policies were helpful in that area and Hamas was having a cup of STFU.

I do remember the PLO and Arafat. I also agree with the other points you made. I support Israel... and the Palestinians can go eat a bag of d--ks.

CelticBomber
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5 years ago

#46

MACS wrote:

Only my first sentence was directed towards you. Just saying that who the President is has nothing to do with any of this. This would have happened even if Trump had been reelected. Hamas was in no way emboldened by Biden being President. Didn't mean to single you out.

This new round of violence had been building for a long time and Israel's actions at Al-Aqsa lit the match. The rest was just my oversimplified view on what's going on over there. We can hug it out over some Pliny's on Saturday sugarbear. Make sure you have 3 Pliny's ready and the old fashions ready to go! Daddy like's you most when you're all loose and giggly;-p

ZRX1200
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5 years ago

#47

Teedubya really?.......

HockeyDad
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5 years ago

#48

I got $100 on Israel. Who is in?!

CelticBomber
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5 years ago

#49

I got $100 on Israel. Who is in?!

HockeyDad wrote:

Gonna need odds on this one... Say 1,000,000 to one? I will be betting with Iranian Rials and you will be paying with Kuwaiti Dinars. No exchange rates. Just straight up 1 million Dinars to 1 Rial. Even then I'd still have to think about it.

frankj1
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5 years ago

#50

pretty sure neither Israel nor Palestine (which doesn't exist despite the OP title) are among the 57 states, so, there's that.

edit: I was referencing the cbid Proximity Rule

Edited by user 5 years ago | Reason: Not specified

HockeyDad
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5 years ago

#51

That Palestine thing was just bait! Back when HockeySon was playing hockey he once had two Jewish teammates. Me and their dads would hang out and talk politics. One was an American (a doctor, of course) the other was an F-4 Phantom pilot for the IDF in the 1973 war. Man did he have stories and choice words for the Palestinians! He moved his family to the US for safety. I’m a US Army brat so I could speak the language.

CelticBomber
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5 years ago

#52

HockeyDad wrote:

Most people don't realize that Palestinian became a catch all term for anyone who lived in the occupied territories. So displaced Egyptians, Jordanians, Syrians and Lebanese people were suddenly Palestinians.

frankj1
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5 years ago

#53

displaced only hints at what their Arab brothers thought of them.
Whatever happened to Trans Jordans?

frankj1
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5 years ago

#54

HockeyDad wrote:

great post!

teedubbya
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5 years ago

#55

Teedubya really?.......

ZRX1200 wrote:

Yes?

HockeyDad
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5 years ago

#56

Whatever happened to Trans Jordans?

frankj1 wrote:

He got a sex change?

DrMaddVibe
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5 years ago

#57

Yes, the Abraham Accords Were a Historic Success

This is a popular talking point on the left today:

The Abraham Accords were predicated on the idea that the United States could broker peace between Israel and once-antagonistic Arab nations by bypassing the intractable Palestinians, who have actively stood in the way of every agreement since 1994. Though they are mentioned in passing, the agreement has nothing to do with Palestinians, who grumbled at the time, “Our Arab brothers have abandoned us.”

Jared Kushner, whose approach had more results than anything tried by the Obama administration retreads who now populate the Biden administration, never claimed the normalization deals would fix the Palestinian situation.

Here is what he said at the time:

You have 5 million Palestinians who are really trapped because of bad leadership. So what we’ve done is we’ve created an opportunity for their leadership to either seize or not. If they screw up this opportunity — which again, they have a perfect track record of missing opportunities — if they screw this up, I think they will have a very hard time looking the international community in the face, saying they are victims, saying they have rights. This is a great deal for them. If they come to the table and negotiate, I think they can get something excellent …

The Palestinian leadership have to ask themselves a question: Do they want to have a state? Do they want to have a better life? If they do, we have created a framework for them to have it, and we’re going to treat them in a very respectful manner. If they don’t, then they’re going to screw up another opportunity like they’ve screwed up every other opportunity that they’ve ever had in their existence.

Indeed, the Palestinians have extended their perfect track record of “missing opportunities” (really, more like blowing them up). And the fact that Iranian-funded Hamas rockets are falling on Jewish cities or that riots are being perpetuated by the Palestinian Authority only further proves that Kushner was right: Waiting around for the theocrats in Gaza or corrupt former PLO officials in West Bank is a foolish endeavor. Now, maybe Frum and others believe that those who indiscriminately fire Qassam rockets at civilians deserve their own state. But that has nothing to do with the Abraham Accords.

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/yes-the-abraham-accords-were-a-historic-success/

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