Speyside2
4 years ago
I thought you might appreciate this.

Every age that has historical status is governed by aristocracies.
Aristocracy with the meaning - the best are ruling.
Peoples do never govern themselves. That lunacy was concocted by liberalism. Behind its "people's sovereignty" the slyest cheaters are hiding, who don't want to be recognized.
RayR
4 years ago

I thought you might appreciate this.

Every age that has historical status is governed by aristocracies.
Aristocracy with the meaning - the best are ruling.
Peoples do never govern themselves. That lunacy was concocted by liberalism. Behind its "people's sovereignty" the slyest cheaters are hiding, who don't want to be recognized.

Speyside2 wrote:



That's what all dicktators say Spey. The only sovereignty they believe in is centralized power with rule from the top.
In the U.S. the aristocrats that want to rule by decree can plainly be found in D.C.in the state capitols and cities.
If you read Joseph Goebbels's propaganda techniques you can't miss the fact that they are exactly what the radical leftists use.



bgz
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4 years ago
My argument against that is clearly we're not putting our best in ruling positions.

ELON for president, 2024.
Speyside2
4 years ago
Hence why I thought you would find it interesting. It is a Goebbel's quote that easily could be modern day propaganda.
Mr. Jones
4 years ago
Is this the new "NAZI 500" ???
RayR
4 years ago

My argument against that is clearly we're not putting our best in ruling positions.

ELON for president, 2024.

bgz wrote:



We don't need any stinking rulers.
A president was never meant to be a ruler, although many come along and think their election is a mandate to be an omnipotent king.
You can say the same for many governors and mayors.
RayR
4 years ago

Hence why I thought you would find it interesting. It is a Goebbel's quote that easily could be modern day propaganda.

Speyside2 wrote:



You can't miss the authoritarian propaganda. In this progtard regime, you can hear it plainly their words.
Pelosi giggles as she pushes for more power and plunder and say "We're doing this for the people"
For Biden where do you even start? He's more of a “fascist” and “dictator” in his words and deeds than they accused Trump of being.
bgz
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4 years ago

We don't need any stinking rulers.
A president was never meant to be a ruler, although many come along and think their election is a mandate to be an omnipotent king.
You can say the same for many governors and mayors.

RayR wrote:



Was in the context of the op. We can change it to "leadership positions" if that's more palatable for you.
RayR
4 years ago

Was in the context of the op. We can change it to "leadership positions" if that's more palatable for you.

bgz wrote:



What's the definition of leader?
For some people, it is synonymous with ruler or dicktator.
bgz
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4 years ago

What's the definition of leader?
For some people, it is synonymous with ruler or dicktator.

RayR wrote:



Like most things, context matters. In the case of President of the United States, in my opinion, I would consider them to be a part of the rulership of the nation.

I know you would prefer no nations, but we as humans tend to build them, so it's just something you have to deal with.
RayR
4 years ago

Like most things, context matters. In the case of President of the United States, in my opinion, I would consider them to be a part of the rulership of the nation.

I know you would prefer no nations, but we as humans tend to build them, so it's just something you have to deal with.

bgz wrote:



According to the founder's construction of these United States, there was no "nation" created, it was a decentralized federal republic.
The president himself had very few and defined powers. Some things went very wrong along the way to the mess we have now.
bgz
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4 years ago
It's always a mess... and there's always someone there to claim they can clean it up. Good thing humans usually figure out a way to clean their sh*t up.

So what's so bad about modern times vs the time of the founders?

You make it sound like they had it all figured out from the very start... obviously they didn't because a civil war soon followed.

Personally I would rather live in modern America vs old America... and if anyone says they rather live back then, then they're f*cked in the head for sure.
RayR
4 years ago
The founders debated feverishly as to what sort of limited governments they would have before coming to a compromise, as flawed as it was.
There's not much of that anymore, now it's just a matter of who has the power to do whatever thee frank they want.
The civil war was a stark tragic example of exactly that, of what went very wrong along the way.
bgz
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4 years ago
It is what it is, we got what we got... coulda literally gone near infinitely many different ways... yet our history is our own.

Beautiful isn't it that we have our own history of events that we all share as individuals... one that we can appreciate, or despise... depending on your outlook I suppose.
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