Social distancing at a range of 9 feet works even better!

Over something that has an over 90% survivability rate?

You're taking an emergency ordered shot (not a vaccine because a vaccine actually PREVENTS one from getting what the shot was designed for) that the CDC has in turn altered the terms of what a vaccination is all while getting boostered and now being told the newest variant is resistant to the old "Coke Formula". While it all wanes in a matter of weeks??? Have you stopped to think what the long term ramifications of taking a "vaccine" that was made in the middle of a pandemic would be?

The facts don't line up anymore with the CDC gospel according to Pope Fauci of the Perpetual Vaccine. You will be taking shots for the rest of your life. Perhaps you were one of the people that got their yearly flu shot and are just conditioned to believe in their efficacy. I don't know, only you can truly answer that.

Flu, and pneumonia vaccines do not protect you for life, nor do they have 100% protection. Are you saying you don't consider them vaccines also?

How many times have I said here that I have many serious health issues issues that put me in the very high risk groups and have weighed the risks and benefits with my doctors? I made my decision and can simply live with it. Just like I couldn't change your mind, you won't change mine on this topic either.

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You always seemed fine when we met, but you know you better than anyone.

You've spent a lot of time defending your decision and carrying the water for Fauci. That's not changing any minds here. I don't care how many NY Times articles or personal medical practicing individuals opinions you post about it, because it's tailored only for you. I too, have a slew of friends and family that are in the medical field that have opinions that span the entire spectrum of what you and I choose to believe. You believe the shot works. I don't. The proof is showing that a developed "vaccine" created during a pandemic is like hitting a moving target. It wanes in a matter of weeks. That's not a cure, that's a perpetual customer base. I see this as another taxpayer funded Big Pharma experiment with the long range ramifications yet to be determined. All done under "emergency", so...It's not their fault if you die, develop some other medical issue or pass that down to unborn children. Can't sue them and they're not forthcoming about what's actually in it and what it's actually doing. Thank God that the SCOTUS (despite 3 of the judges actually spreading misinformation from the bench that would have an individual banned and removed from social media platforms!) voted the way they did and stopped this idiocy of a mandate by a mentally deficient sitting puppet. I really feel bad for the healthcare workers trapped in the middle with no choice. Once heralded as heroes, now out a job and derided for their personal decisions as some miscreant bottom feeder.

I cannot wait for the midterms and 2024 to rip the DNC out of power. THAT will stop the insanity that is going on.

Doc, it is a vaccine. Simply put a vaccine causes the body to produce b cells and c cells which produce antibodies and t cells for a grouping of virus strains. I take a flu vaccine that lasts 6 months and a pneumonia vaccine that lasts 5 years due to my specific health conditions. Both of those vaccines are a crap shoot because they have to pick the specific strains of virus to protect against. I take SARS-COVID2 vaccine because of the same specific health issues.

The majority of your above post has accuracy, though on parts my nuance might differ slightly. You are good at finding information. I would love to know what percentage of people hospitalized, in ICU, on ventilators, and dead, have comorbidities and on average how many do they have. I think that information would be very helpful in deciding to vaccinate or not vaccinate. Have you seen anything about what I am curious about?

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I tried to gain information here first of all places. Believe it or not, this site is a cornucopia of information. All walks of life and such a varied background, it really is amazing. All I got from medical insiders was "follow the data" and when I pushed on it was sent to a clearing house of links which all pointed to the CDC! Hardly what anyone can call real information. They've been wrong more than they were right. As far as getting any real data on Covid, you cannot. It's all factored in to Covid. Suffer a death in a motorcycle crash...COVID. Overdose...COVID. I started scratchin around other nations medical data and found Sweden as the "control group" with no lockdowns and compared Israel being the highest vaccinated. I knew there were games afoot when you couldn't get real numbers on common flu deaths. Matter of fact you got this...

https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/amid-covid-outbreak-no-flu-infections-recorded-in-israel-this-season-654095 [/i]

We all know that isn't accurate. The world hasn't eradicated the flu. They just stopped recording about it accurately. Then there were the talking heads muttering about the Black Plague and catastrophic death counts. Hospitals adding refrigerated tractor trailers to house the dead because their morgues and the county ones were overfilling. That wasn't happening. When President Trump made 2 Red Cross vessels available as roving hospitals and a field hospital installed in Central Park and they went unused the "red alarms" inside me went off. All the while we were told 2 weeks to flatten the curve so the hospitals weren't overrun. Instead we witnessed hospital closings and layoffs across the nation. That doesn't sound like bodies stacked up like cord wood in any way shape or fashion. We were told masks don't work. Then we found out Fauci lied so he could save this hidden supply of PPE for hospitals. We were told to mask up, wash your hands and stay 6 feet away from everybody...including family that doesn't live in your own home. Then it became 2 masks. Then there were the "Essentials" that were called into action to lead the fight so we could save Humanity. That was a joke. I did enjoy the time where the morons weren't on the road and had it all to myself. Ultimately, we were lied to. Each and every opportunity just lied to. "Get the vaccine and we'll eradicate Covid!", "Save grandma and get the shot" and my personal favorite lie that this is "a pandemic of the unvaccinated.". Then we got a vaccine. We were told it was safe, effective and was going to end Covid. Lies on all 3 there. The VAERS information should point anyone looking to kinda what you're looking for. GOOD LUCK! That's a hodgepodge of crap as well. I forget where I heard it but it made total sense, "Any time Science goes up against Politics, Science loses."...that's what we have here. The nation didn't' want harsh talk and mean tweets. It wanted a Creepy Grandpa that swore he would shut down Covid, not the economy. He was never going to do that...ever. Here we are. Zero accountability and an endless supply of US taxpayer dollars being tossed out the window for masks and tests that won't pick up the newest variant in time to stop any spread. More deaths and we were told that the last guy should've resigned over 220,000 deaths without a vaccine than the over 417,000 with one! By the same guy I might add who wanted Trump to resign. Bold talk, zero action.

No, Spey this is a matter where we will never know clear data on death counts and infection rates on any category. There is too much money to be made and the "copper tops" well, they have to keep on keeping on. It maddening and it's sad because we look to the scientific community to get it right. They're guilty in this mess as well. They cannot even tell us where it came from (even though we ALL know), or whom funded it (we ALL know). If you've talked with your medical doctors and they tell you advice/consul that you feel you should act on then you should do it. To ridicule, berate or laugh at others that didn't take the advice you did...well...speaks volumes. This is a nation still predicated on individual freedoms. Most forgot that and want to live in an Orwellian fascist state where "OBEY!" is all you need to know and do. I really wish we had a vaccine that would cure Covid. The reality is we don't and it's never going to be a zero sum game. It's here and it's here to stay. I'm not going to argue the difference between a shot and a vaccine. I have my definition and well, the officials are changing theirs to fit their narrative of Control. We lived through a very dark time in this nation. We allowed our government to roll us over because they said it was for the betterment of society and they knew better. Rolled over. Thank the Lord that they didn't get their ultimate wish.

I figured as much. There simply is no raw clean data to be found. Truthfully I think Omicron is not very severe in any manner. At least under Trump I could find what I felt to be good undoctored data. All of those sources have went away under Biden.

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Hey Doc, here is a thought that will blow your mind. Is any research being done on the possibility that MRNA vaccine itself could cause new variants? Here is a second thought dealing with conspiracy theories. Could an MRNA vaccine be weaponized to kill everyone injected with it in certain time frame, say 2 years for instance? Like say targeting people with cycle cell anemia? Or certain other biological traits.

Can't really say it all went shady under King Bidas even as much as I want to. The information was simply never going to be made public knowledge because of the damage it would do to their narratives.

Control the sources, spread misinformation for the sake of mucking up the waters and circle the wagons. How many times did we all witness government agencies do this? With the help of this administration and the presstitutes no less. A concerted effort.

MRNA is a leaky vessel. A colander. A sieve. From what I've been able to read about it, it's the reason it failed during the AIDS epidemic. Funny, Fauci thought vaccines were the answer then too. He didn't learn a thing. This time around he created a bioweapon and was forced offshore with it. Of course China would help us in this effort. They're getting paid and they gain insight to control population. It's been their modus operandi for generations. The "new" technology with vaccines did create the new variant. This is why a vaccine has never been successfully developed during a pandemic. Viruses evolve and mutate but this war of the unvaxxed was proven to be a side effect of the vaccine. The constant division by one that was supposed to be a uniter and an "adult" in the room isn't what this nation wanted nor needed. He was accurately described here by me though and others willing to factually report on him. He's dirty. Always was, always will be. He's a wedge. Always was, always will be. This is why he was foisted upon this nation. Nothing good will come from him and nothing will be solved under him.

MRNA might prove itself useful yet, but to date where are the animal trials? The searches were vague and almost incomplete. Where is any kind of success with it? I cannot point to this pandemic and say that here. People are dying and and it's there for all to see. Read up on myocardiitis and pericarditis. Ask yourself why soccer players (while they flop around over being looked at they are in prime physical condition) around the world fall down suffering from them after being vaccinated. Where was that warning from the CDC? More lies and hiding in the shadows as they push the shot narrative. The more you read the harder it is to sleep anymore.

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