Brewha
4 years ago

We could progress to green technologies through free market innovation. We are not but we were for a time.

The energy sector is a special case for free markets since it is strategic to national interests and is heavily government influenced/manipulated. As you say there are people/companies with a vested interest in not changing over to green solutions, there are also many with a vested interest in changing over to green solutions. Follow the money. Climate change is a gold mine.

HockeyDad wrote:


No argument there. Lots of money to be made re-tooling and changing over. New jobs too.

But big oil will always sell it as politics and the sky is falling.

I guess we should use our smarts (gulp!) to do the right thing.
(sometimes I crack myself up)
burning_sticks
4 years ago

Maybe they should just issue guns - you know, like Obama phones?

Brewha wrote:



I frequented a bar in Panama City, if you didn't have a gun when you came in, you could get a loaner.

I will take George Carlins stand that planet is gonna be fine, it's us that have a problem.
RayR
4 years ago
Brewha still doesn't get it, that those "green technologies" he dreams about, the ones that Joey B told him would create new jobs by just "re-tooling and changing over" are not so green and not very cost efficient and in fact are a recipe for more poverty and other economic and environmental disasters. To bring about this instant brave new world the lefties want so badly would not be one that would emerge organically from the free market innovation of capitalism like the fossil fuel industry did so long ago.
No, they aren't interested and don't have the patience for that, their faith is in government socialism directing the course of technology now. Declare a climate emergency, the sky is falling, corporate welfare now for donors to the DNC. Lefty politicians know best, so economic fascism is the only way to a green future!
HockeyDad
4 years ago

No argument there. Lots of money to be made re-tooling and changing over. New jobs too.

But big oil will always sell it as politics and the sky is falling.

I guess we should use our smarts (gulp!) to do the right thing.
(sometimes I crack myself up)

Brewha wrote:



You would actually be surprised at how much money big oil is dumping into green technologies. The problem big oil has is inconsistent energy policy. Big oil invests billions into projects that will produce profits in 5 years. If you’ve got a billion to invest right now do you invest in green technologies because Biden says he’s going to put oil and gas out of business or do you invest in building a new refinery because Biden says we need to lower gasoline prices by increasing supply? Nobody builds new refineries in the US.
HockeyDad
4 years ago

No sense in talking to Brewha, he's a lefty corporate welfare fascist.

RayR wrote:



There’s plenty of room at the trough!

Signed: righty corporate welfare fascist.
MACS
4 years ago
CA had very clean energy and a lot of it, too... they closed down their nuclear plants and now charge an arm, a leg, and a firstborn child per kwh... for wind? Solar? Or is it fossil fuels?

Look it up.
Brewha
4 years ago

You would actually be surprised at how much money big oil is dumping into green technologies. The problem big oil has is inconsistent energy policy. Big oil invests billions into projects that will produce profits in 5 years. If you’ve got a billion to invest right now do you invest in green technologies because Biden says he’s going to put oil and gas out of business or do you invest in building a new refinery because Biden says we need to lower gasoline prices by increasing supply? Nobody builds new refineries in the US.

HockeyDad wrote:


I agree the inconsistent polies are hurting everyone. Trump rolling pack emission standards was a d1ck move.
RayR
4 years ago

There’s plenty of room at the trough!

Signed: righty corporate welfare fascist.

HockeyDad wrote:



There is no such thing as a righty corporate welfare fascist.
Neocon corporate welfare fascists...YES
I hear some of them are in the Republican Party
They are just lefties in denial of their roots and drooling at the trough with the lefties.
8trackdisco
4 years ago

We could progress to green technologies through free market innovation. We are not but we were for a time.

The energy sector is a special case for free markets since it is strategic to national interests and is heavily government influenced/manipulated. As you say there are people/companies with a vested interest in not changing over to green solutions, there are also many with a vested interest in changing over to green solutions. Follow the money. Climate change is a gold mine.

HockeyDad wrote:



That is a lot of vests.
8trackdisco
4 years ago

It is little surprise that so few understand the effects of pollution on the earths climate. We have embraced the culture of discounting science, or scientific organizations, that tell us things we don't want to hear.

Brewha wrote:



That is a slippery one. I still see some Biden signs out with We Believe in Science.

“The Science” only fits when it serves the purposes of the political party.

Dems decried Big Pharma, and weren’t going to take the ‘Trump Vaccine’.
The virus came from a lab was the only possibility. Saying it could have been genetically developed in a lab got you banned on social media.

The Science then said Take the Shot. Both shots. Then a booster, no another booster, while hiding the data for the next 75 years. How is that transparent?

Original science Don’t Wear A Mask. Followed by Everyone Wear a Mask. Then “The Science” said masks provide little to no protection. What do the Dems say? … wear a mask.

And the whole time, both party politicians have filled their pockets.

And don’t even let me start with the CDC and WHO. They are too sad to be laughing stocks.

You can’t really wonder why people think so much of this bull chit is… well, bull chit.

Can you?
8trackdisco
4 years ago

CA had very clean energy and a lot of it, too... they closed down their nuclear plants and now charge an arm, a leg, and a firstborn child per kwh... for wind? Solar? Or is it fossil fuels?

Look it up.

MACS wrote:



First born? Thought they aborted the first one to show their dedication to the cause.
zitotczito
4 years ago

Just to get out in front of the Right here, let me be the first to say:

"Guns are NEVER the problem"

Brewha wrote:



Here I fixed it for you: "Guns are NEVER the problem except when in the hands of Democrats who are mostly criminal's."
Krazeehorse
4 years ago

And they shoot people somewhat less.....

Brewha wrote:



Only somewhat.
Krazeehorse
4 years ago

And there we have it. Guns are not the problem.

It takes people to use a gun so people must be the problem.


Brewha wrote:


Correct.
DrMaddVibe
4 years ago

That is a slippery one. I still see some Biden signs out with We Believe in Science.

“The Science” only fits when it serves the purposes of the political party.

Dems decried Big Pharma, and weren’t going to take the ‘Trump Vaccine’.
The virus came from a lab was the only possibility. Saying it could have been genetically developed in a lab got you banned on social media.

The Science then said Take the Shot. Both shots. Then a booster, no another booster, while hiding the data for the next 75 years. How is that transparent?

Original science Don’t Wear A Mask. Followed by Everyone Wear a Mask. Then “The Science” said masks provide little to no protection. What do the Dems say? … wear a mask.

And the whole time, both party politicians have filled their pockets.

And don’t even let me start with the CDC and WHO. They are too sad to be laughing stocks.

You can’t really wonder why people think so much of this bull chit is… well, bull chit.

Can you?

8trackdisco wrote:




And the little tyrant wants to play it both ways now that he's been proven a liar...someone that can be bought and a mass murderer!

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/recent-fauci-claims-dismantled-former-cdc-director-and-faucis-own-words [/i][/color][/size]
Brewha
4 years ago

That is a slippery one. I still see some Biden signs out with We Believe in Science.

“The Science” only fits when it serves the purposes of the political party.

Dems decried Big Pharma, and weren’t going to take the ‘Trump Vaccine’.
The virus came from a lab was the only possibility. Saying it could have been genetically developed in a lab got you banned on social media.

The Science then said Take the Shot. Both shots. Then a booster, no another booster, while hiding the data for the next 75 years. How is that transparent?

Original science Don’t Wear A Mask. Followed by Everyone Wear a Mask. Then “The Science” said masks provide little to no protection. What do the Dems say? … wear a mask.

And the whole time, both party politicians have filled their pockets.

And don’t even let me start with the CDC and WHO. They are too sad to be laughing stocks.

You can’t really wonder why people think so much of this bull chit is… well, bull chit.

Can you?

8trackdisco wrote:


Yes, I can.

Seems the problem is with people listening to "science" from anyone who proports to have it. One guy here posts opinion pieces he found on YouTube and proclaims them indisputable truth of science fact - when even a cursory watching shows them to be emotion and opinion, both uninformed. Many here disregard the best Doctors , Scientist and organizations because they don't like what they say.

Add to that the common wisdom that changing recommendations based on new research or data means "science knows nothing".
Brewha
4 years ago

Correct.

Krazeehorse wrote:


Going for a Pulitzer?
Brewha
4 years ago

Here I fixed it for you: "Guns are NEVER the problem except when in the hands of Democrats who are mostly criminal's."

zitotczito wrote:


Wait - YOU'RE a Democrat???


You should change parties...
MACS
4 years ago
Never thought these words would leave my lips... at least not unless I was being sarcastic... but, thank you, Jerry Nadless.

Mr. Jones
4 years ago
Just wondering???

What was the # of peeps shot and killed in
DAMASCUS , SYRIA last weekend???

Higher?

Or

Lower?
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