Brewha
4 years ago

Let's forego the "guns are freely distributed to anyone" portion of your statement, because it's been covered repeatedly in recent threads and it's still bullchit.

Your view amounts to all the guns should be taken away. I know, I know, AR15s and high capacity mags. But AR15s are a tiny sliver of the deaths you're concerned about. So once they're banned, and the rate of firearm deaths remains largely unchanged, will people decide they need a different strategy, or double down and hit up handguns next?

It's not fear. It's recognition of logical progression in those who have misplaced their fear

Sunoverbeach wrote:


No, that is not my view.

I would settle for a "well regulated militia".

But regulation of fire arms is both bad and useless - right?






But, let me ask you; what is the problem? Is there even a problem?
You know, 450 shootings is kinda small potatoes if you look at it the right way. And it didn't happen in my back yard.

Can we trust that anyone even got shot at all?
Sunoverbeach
4 years ago
What exactly is your picture of a well regulated militia? My understanding of how that worked at the time was a weekend of training once or twice a year. Do the members have to turn in their weapons so they aren't tempted to do bad things the other 362 days?

While you're going for a point by way of exaggeration, I would be interested in a breakdown of the 450+. How many were justified. How many were in defense of their lives or their families? How many of them do you feel deserve to die because they aren't a regulated militia, so shouldn't have a gun?
Brewha
4 years ago

What exactly is your picture of a well regulated militia? My understanding of how that worked at the time was a weekend of training once or twice a year. Do the members have to turn in their weapons so they aren't tempted to do bad things the other 362 days?

While you're going for a point by way of exaggeration, I would be interested in a breakdown of the 450+. How many were justified. How many were in defense of their lives or their families? How many of them do you feel deserve to die because they aren't a regulated militia, so shouldn't have a gun?

Sunoverbeach wrote:


My option on what our gun regulations should be has been well stated. But I'm interested in if you think there even is a problem. Is there?


To keep in the spirt, many of those 450 were prolly asking for it, of just some boys horsing around. And I'm sure the rest - if it even happened - were pure self defense.


8track could be pushing fake news, ya know....
HockeyDad
4 years ago

Maybe they should just issue guns - you know, like Obama phones?

Brewha wrote:



That would also require more government.
HockeyDad
4 years ago

My option on what our gun regulations should be has been well stated. But I'm interested in if you think there even is a problem. Is there?


To keep in the spirt, many of those 450 were prolly asking for it, of just some boys horsing around. And I'm sure the rest - if it even happened - were pure self defense.


8track could be pushing fake news, ya know....

Brewha wrote:



Whatever gun regulations you want, we already have it in California. It is an easy case study.
Brewha
4 years ago

That would also require more government.

HockeyDad wrote:


Guess you didn't get no Obama phone either....
HockeyDad
4 years ago

Guess you didn't get no Obama phone either....

Brewha wrote:



I didn’t get no Trump/Biden Covid checks either.
Brewha
4 years ago

Whatever gun regulations you want, we already have it in California. It is an easy case study.

HockeyDad wrote:


That's what they said about Climate Change.
HockeyDad
4 years ago

That's what they said about Climate Change.

Brewha wrote:



Yes, we already have that too. We even have carbon credits. (And .30 a KWH)
Brewha
4 years ago

I didn’t get no Trump/Biden Covid checks either.

HockeyDad wrote:


At least you are helping to keep the government small.
Sunoverbeach
4 years ago
I do believe there's a problem. I also believe it's largely a mental health problem. And I believe the violence will continue with or without guns unless it is addressed.

Sarcasm noted, but statistics would indicate that a decent % of those shootings are likely in self defense. Am I blanketing all 450+ as justifiable in direct opposition to how that fear mongering figure is portrayed? Hell no. I'm not blind, just disagree with your position
MACS
4 years ago

Was I using too many big words again macs?

Brewha wrote:



My left testicle is smarter than you. In fact... both of my dog's testicles are smarter than you and they died a couple years ago when he was neutered.
RayR
4 years ago
All the GUBMENT has to do is write a law outlawing crazy people. Then nobody will be crazy. 🤪
Brewha
4 years ago

I do believe there's a problem. I also believe it's largely a mental health problem. And I believe the violence will continue with or without guns unless it is addressed.

Sarcasm noted, but statistics would indicate that a decent % of those shootings are likely in self defense. Am I blanketing all 450+ as justifiable in direct opposition to how that fear mongering figure is portrayed? Hell no. I'm not blind, just disagree with your position

Sunoverbeach wrote:



SOB, I thank you for your honest opinion.

While I choose to make my point with sarcasm, I mean no offense to you. I’m just trying to illustrate my point.
That’s why I like the forum. We get to see each other views, and maybe hash things out.

I believe that the proliferation of gun in the hands of common people, out and about, escalates the violence needlessly. fist fights turn into gun fights. Stay bullets cause collateral damage. By standers shoot back.

So yes, I think we have a problem.
Brewha
4 years ago

My left testicle is smarter than you. In fact... both of my dog's testicles are smarter than you and they died a couple years ago when he was neutered.

MACS wrote:


You are as constant as the Northern Star.
Rather than debate the issue, just start calling people stooopid.

Do you think that makes you look smart?
MACS
4 years ago

You are as constant as the Northern Star.
Rather than debate the issue, just start calling people stooopid.

Do you think that makes you look smart?

Brewha wrote:



Also Brewha...

Was I using too many big words again macs?

Brewha wrote:



Typical democratic tactic... do it and then accuse the opposition of it. 😂

Brewha
4 years ago
Oh, you get confused between sarcasm and personal insults.

Ok,
Sarcasm: “what, are you stupid?”
Insult: “Damn, you’re stupid”

I fine point I will grant you.
8trackdisco
4 years ago

And half of those were in Chicago... am I right?

MACS wrote:



Only 60? 0ver the weekend. NYC and Atlanta round out the top three.

Now some of the more affluent neighborhoods are crowd funding for additional patrols from off duty police officers.

Most of those screaming Defund the Police and aggressively shopping at Target during what became a 100% off door busters are going to have the chickens come home to roost.

Watch for the Underserved Apologist to call on rich people to keep their neighborhoods safe.

Redlining 202.
8trackdisco
4 years ago

And they shoot people somewhat less.....

Brewha wrote:



Correct. Here are the numbers shared on NewsNation this morning.

In NYC, shootings and homicides are down. Robberies, burglaries and assaults are higher than usual. Up 30%.

Minneapolis, burglaries are up 6%, thefts 31% and carjackings up 14%.

Brewha is right. It isn’t about guns.

Brewha
4 years ago

Correct. Here are the numbers shared on NewsNation this morning.

In NYC, shootings and homicides are down. Robberies, burglaries and assaults are higher than usual. Up 30%.

Minneapolis, burglaries are up 6%, thefts 31% and carjackings up 14%.

Brewha is right. It isn’t about guns.

8trackdisco wrote:


It’s so true.
Even without the guns peeps would be gettin shot….



Really though, Biden Guns to fix all this???
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