MACS
4 years ago

It is little surprise that so few understand the effects of pollution on the earths climate. We have embraced the culture of discounting science, or scientific organizations, that tell us things we don't want to hear by labeling it "political".

Add to that people/companies with a vested interest in not changing over to green solutions, and you see a ton of YouTube videos and TV commentary saying climate change is fake news (that is why a joke about fake news).

All things being equal everyone would want clean energy - but now wanting it makes you a "lefty".

Brewha wrote:



Oh, okay Mr. Science... how many genders are there? If the vast majority of biologists say life begins at conception (and they do)... does it? Or is it just a clump of cells? Can men bear children?

Don't point fingers about science deniers when your party are the freakin' kings and queens (and weirdos) of it.
DrafterX
4 years ago
I heard the earth is gonna die in a couple years... 😟
bgz
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4 years ago

Oh, okay Mr. Science... how many genders are there? If the vast majority of biologists say life begins at conception (and they do)... does it? Or is it just a clump of cells? Can men bear children?

Don't point fingers about science deniers when your party are the freakin' kings and queens (and weirdos) of it.

MACS wrote:



Pretty sure most biologists would say life begins at the cellular level... Or possibly even sooner than that...

You're just moving the goal post up a bit to a specific cell.

No egg left behind.
zitotczito
4 years ago

Wait - YOU'RE a Democrat???


You should change parties...

Brewha wrote:



I said before that I was testing what it is like being a Democrat. Tons of benefits to it. lots of free stuff, illegals to do my yard work, able to commit crimes with impunity and no consequences. What's not to love. Maybe we should get together for a drink and smoke so you can teach me the finer points.
MACS
4 years ago

Pretty sure most biologists would say life begins at the cellular level... Or possibly even sooner than that...

You're just moving the goal post up a bit to a specific cell.

No egg left behind.

bgz wrote:



You'd be wrong. Again. But hey... you think you're the smartest guy in the room, so you must be right.

Survey says! BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZT! Wrong.

"Many Americans disagree on ‘When does a human’s life begin?’ because the question is subject to interpretive ambiguity arising from Hume’s is-ought problem. There are two distinct interpretations of the question: descriptive (i.e., ‘When is a fetus classified as a human?’) and normative (i.e., ‘When ought a fetus be worthy of ethical and legal consideration?’). To determine if one view is more prevalent today, 2,899 American adults were surveyed and asked to select the group most qualified to answer the question of when a human’s life begins. The majority selected biologists (81%), which suggested Americans primarily hold a descriptive view. Indeed, the majority justified their selection by describing biologists as objective scientists that can use their biological expertise to determine when a human's life begins. Academic biologists were recruited to participate in a study on their descriptive view of when life begins. A sample of 5,502 biologists from 1,058 academic institutions assessed statements representing the biological view ‘a human’s life begins at fertilization’. This view was used because previous polls and surveys suggest many Americans and medical experts hold this view. Each of the three statements representing that view was affirmed by a consensus of biologists (75-91%). The participants were separated into 60 groups and each statement was affirmed by a consensus of each group, including biologists that identified as very pro-choice (69-90%), very pro-life (92-97%), very liberal (70-91%), very conservative (94-96%), strong Democrats (74-91%), and strong Republicans (89-94%). Overall, 95% of all biologists affirmed the biological view that a human's life begins at fertilization (5212 out of 5502). Historically, the descriptive view on when life begins has dictated the normative view that drives America's abortion laws: (1) abortion was illegal at ‘quickening’ under 18th century common law, (2) abortion was illegal at ‘conception’ in state laws from the late 1800’s to the mid-1900’s, and (3) abortion is currently legal before ‘viability’ due to 20th century U.S. Supreme Court cases Roe v. Wade and Planned Parenthood v. Casey. While this article’s findings suggest a fetus is biologically classified as a human at fertilization, this descriptive view does not entail the normative view that fetuses deserve legal consideration throughout pregnancy. Contemporary ethical and legal concepts that motivate reproductive rights might cause Americans to disregard the descriptive view or disentangle it from the normative view. However, these findings can help Americans move past the factual dispute on when life begins and focus on the operative question of when a fetus deserves legal consideration."

Steven Andrew Jacobs
Northwestern Prizker School of Law; University of Chicago - Department of Comparative Human Development
MACS
4 years ago
Begins at "fertilization"... otherwise known as "conception". When the woman's egg and the man's sperm join to make a human life.

Just like they used to teach in biology... ya know... before the wokies took over school curriculum, and told your kids it was just a "clump of cells".

Science denier.

LMAO!
Sunoverbeach
4 years ago
Anatomy of a Shooting Themed Thread
An independent study by the Sons O Beaches Foundation

*Shooting statistic stated* Uh huh. Makes sense
*Rehashed arguments made for/against gun rights/control* Yep, check.
*Left/right political shade thrown* Expected
*Climate change enters the chat* Wait, wut?!?
*COVID Vaccine arguments begin* Cbid, what are you doing?
*Transgender theory comes out (of the closet?)* STAHP!!!
*Firmly entrenched in abortion argument* Oy vey! 🤦

Empirical evidence has shown that one single thread covers all of your political woes. Y'all are just spamming now
Brewha
4 years ago

Oh, okay Mr. Science... how many genders are there? If the vast majority of biologists say life begins at conception (and they do)... does it? Or is it just a clump of cells? Can men bear children?

Don't point fingers about science deniers when your party are the freakin' kings and queens (and weirdos) of it.

MACS wrote:


In the animal kingdom there are males, females, hermaphrodites, and asexual animals. So, four. Although classically two is considered the most correct answer.

At conception, two living things become one living thing. Then cells divide.

The question of when does a human life begins is far less simple than you are thinking. After conception, as before, it is human life, but not a human proper. When does it become a Being is a better question.

It seems reasonable to me that once the fertilized egg grows to a viable level, say second or third trimester, it is responsible to call it a Being.



Btw, I think you are mixing up people that deny science and those who are ignorant of it.
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