HockeyDad
3 years ago
New College is and always has been a joke.
RayR
3 years ago
I heard teaching English, Math, Science, and History is inherently racist if not taught by LEFTY professors.
Brewha
3 years ago
DeSantis plainly knows what bait to use. Find something the far Right can rally around to hate and fight.
The more preposterous the better.

Here we go:

LGBTIQA are destroying our country, our kids, our guns, our gun sights, our lite beer!
They are the reason your tires are low and taxes are high!
God will smite us all unless we drag the evil, vile Micky Mouse thought the streets in chains - just not the kind of chains that "funny guys" like.
We must protect Free Speech by keeping our children from hearing the whispering of Satin himself! Spoke by a demons in dresses (with whiskers sticking out from under their pancake makeup!!!)!



He's kinda like Ronald McDonald - that clown could sell some sh1t.
Brewha
3 years ago
the real question I have is this; Is the Right so stupid that they would nominate Trump over DeSantis?
Prolly....
RayR
3 years ago

the real question I have is this; Is the Right so stupid that they would nominate Trump over DeSantis?
Prolly....

Brewha wrote:



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All I can say is anybody that who voted for Pedo Joe has no business calling anybody stupid.
Brewha
3 years ago
If only that were all you could say...
RayR
3 years ago

If only that were all you could say...

Brewha wrote:



Do you want to CANCEL me?
rfenst
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3 years ago

New College is and always has been a joke.

HockeyDad wrote:


Know anyone who went there? The 5-6 I know of are uniquely and well educated, heavily tend to have graduate degrees from other good to great schools, and function at a high level. than most of us.
https://www.ncf.edu/ 
ZRX1200
3 years ago
If you aren’t a registered republiCANT why would you care about a primary other than who is more beatable?
HockeyDad
3 years ago

Know anyone who went there? The 5-6 I know of are uniquely and well educated, heavily tend to have graduate degrees from other good to great schools, and function at a high level. than most of us.
https://www.ncf.edu/ 

rfenst wrote:



Nope. Never even seen a resume from there.

People went there because it was pass/fail grading. That was the draw.
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3 years ago

Nope. Never even seen a resume from there.

People went there because it was pass/fail grading. That was the draw.

HockeyDad wrote:


That's not the true draw because they still have to work their azzes off. It ain't UF, but it is also for a different type of student with greater potential in a different type of learning environment/
HockeyDad
3 years ago

That's not the true draw because they still have to work their azzes off. It ain't UF, but it is also for a different type of student.

rfenst wrote:



I work with engineers and computer scientists. Those aren’t coming from New College and their 800 students.

New College of Florida is a public institution that was founded in 1960. It has a total undergraduate enrollment of 632 (fall 2021), its setting is suburban, and the campus size is 110 acres. It utilizes a 4-1-4-based academic calendar. New College of Florida's ranking in the 2022-2023 edition of Best Colleges is National Liberal Arts Colleges, #76.
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3 years ago
The No. 5 Public National Liberal Arts College - U.S. News & World Report
Wanto have a cut and paste war over this, LOL?
HockeyDad
3 years ago
Mine also came from US News and World Report! Same ranking, different criteria.

Yours is just “Top Public Schools”. Yours throws out all the private schools.

Mine is “National Liberal Arts Colleges”

Let’s not oversell New College as something more than it is.

#76 in National Liberal Arts Colleges (tie)

#5 in Top Public Schools

#49 in Best Value Schools

#40 in Most Innovative Schools (tie)

#52 in Top Performers on Social Mobility (tie)


Let’s compare it to
.

Stanford

#3 in National Universities (tie)

#4 in Best Value Schools

#2 in Best Undergraduate Engineering Programs
At schools whose highest degree is a doctorate

#6 in Aerospace /Aeronautical / Astronautical
At schools whose highest degree is a doctorate

#5 in Biomedical
At schools whose highest degree is a doctorate

#5 in Chemical (tie)
At schools whose highest degree is a doctorate

#8 in Civil
At schools whose highest degree is a doctorate

#5 in Computer
At schools whose highest degree is a doctorate

#4 in Electrical / Electronic / Communications
At schools whose highest degree is a doctorate

#4 in Environmental / Environmental Health
At schools whose highest degree is a doctorate

#9 in Industrial / Manufacturing
At schools whose highest degree is a doctorate

#4 in Materials
At schools whose highest degree is a doctorate

#3 in Mechanical
At schools whose highest degree is a doctorate

#1 in Computer Science (tie)

#3 in Artificial Intelligence

#7 in Biocomputing/Bioinformatics/Biotechnology

#5 in Computer Systems

#5 in Cybersecurity (tie)

#4 in Data Analytics/Science (tie)

#4 in Mobile/Web Applications

#4 in Programming Languages

#5 in Software Engineering (tie)

#3 in Theory

#18 in Writing in the Disciplines

#30 in Study Abroad (tie)

#8 in Undergraduate Research/Creative Projects (tie)

#9 in Service Learning (tie)

#56 in First-Year Experiences (tie)

#12 in Senior Capstone

#14 in Co-ops/Internships (tie)

#6 in Best Colleges for Veterans

#36 in Best Undergraduate Teaching (tie)

#5 in Most Innovative Schools

#282 in Top Performers on Social Mobility (tie)


See the difference?
deadeyedick
3 years ago
DeSantis better start running harder. Just saw Jacksonville voted in the 1st Demo mayor in like 30 years. DeSantis backed candidate lost. When interviewed MACS said " well, I went fishing and forgot to vote". đŸ€Š


I keed, I keed.
Brewha
3 years ago

To “liberal” for the Trumpsters.

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He need to be charged with a felony - to shore up his base....
rfenst
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3 years ago

Mine also came from US News and World Report! Same ranking, different criteria.

Yours is just “Top Public Schools”. Yours throws out all the private schools.

Mine is “National Liberal Arts Colleges”

Let’s not oversell New College as something more than it is.

#76 in National Liberal Arts Colleges (tie)

#5 in Top Public Schools

#49 in Best Value Schools

#40 in Most Innovative Schools (tie)

#52 in Top Performers on Social Mobility (tie)


Let’s compare it to
.

Stanford

#3 in National Universities (tie)

#4 in Best Value Schools

#2 in Best Undergraduate Engineering Programs
At schools whose highest degree is a doctorate

#6 in Aerospace /Aeronautical / Astronautical
At schools whose highest degree is a doctorate

#5 in Biomedical
At schools whose highest degree is a doctorate

#5 in Chemical (tie)
At schools whose highest degree is a doctorate

#8 in Civil
At schools whose highest degree is a doctorate

#5 in Computer
At schools whose highest degree is a doctorate

#4 in Electrical / Electronic / Communications
At schools whose highest degree is a doctorate

#4 in Environmental / Environmental Health
At schools whose highest degree is a doctorate

#9 in Industrial / Manufacturing
At schools whose highest degree is a doctorate

#4 in Materials
At schools whose highest degree is a doctorate

#3 in Mechanical
At schools whose highest degree is a doctorate

#1 in Computer Science (tie)

#3 in Artificial Intelligence

#7 in Biocomputing/Bioinformatics/Biotechnology

#5 in Computer Systems

#5 in Cybersecurity (tie)

#4 in Data Analytics/Science (tie)

#4 in Mobile/Web Applications

#4 in Programming Languages

#5 in Software Engineering (tie)

#3 in Theory

#18 in Writing in the Disciplines

#30 in Study Abroad (tie)

#8 in Undergraduate Research/Creative Projects (tie)

#9 in Service Learning (tie)

#56 in First-Year Experiences (tie)

#12 in Senior Capstone

#14 in Co-ops/Internships (tie)

#6 in Best Colleges for Veterans

#36 in Best Undergraduate Teaching (tie)

#5 in Most Innovative Schools

#282 in Top Performers on Social Mobility (tie)


See the difference?

HockeyDad wrote:


Of course I know the difference and understand its heavy science and technology offerings. But, that is not the right environment for other people, including myself.

For example the very best part of my business schooling wasn't Michigan or UF. It was UCF, which doesn't rank anywhere near the other two schools! A small, under-rated school at the time.

Alternative/Different types of schools and environments fit some people's needs better and they shouldn't have to pay to go out of state to get what they need- that other students are entitled to.

Different strokes for different folks. YMMV.
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3 years ago
Ron DeSantis is not a conservative | Commentary



Orlando Sentinel: Opinion
Let’s get one thing straight: Ron DeSantis is not a conservative. He is often called that by supporters and opponents who don’t want to seem extreme. Still, his agenda pushes far beyond anything traditionally known as conservatism. And his War on Disney is a clear example of this.

The genius of the American Founders, drawing on the political philosophy of John Locke and others, was to create a limited government that respects a sphere of privacy into which government does not intrude. The invention of a written constitution is a symbol of that. To achieve this, separation of powers and checks and balances are defined in writing. And so is the Bill of Rights. Our Constitution exists to keep the government from doing whatever it wants. It is designed to limit governmental action.

This concept of limited government is expounded brilliantly by Justice John Marshall in the classic Supreme Court case Marbury v. Madison (1803). He says that when the people established the Constitution, they chose to limit the powers of government. “To what purpose are powers limited, and to what purpose is that limitation committed to writing, if these limits may at any time be passed by those intended to be restrained? The distinction between a government with limited and unlimited powers is abolished if those limits do not confine the persons on whom they are imposed.”

Ron DeSantis is attacking businesses in Florida for one reason: they disagree with his opinions about social policy. This is not the action of a conservative. He is intolerant of the mere existence within his state of different perspectives. He doesn’t want to count on being able to persuade people to agree with him, so he resorts to economic and political force to achieve his goals.

The leaders of the Disney corporation support gay rights and the rights of others who identify their genders in ways that are not popular. But it is not the government’s job to root out opinions that political leaders consider bad. DeSantis is welcome to his opinions, but apparently, he does not believe that others are welcome to theirs. Disney has now gone to court to defend itself. We will see what happens.

Corporations should be allowed to operate according to their leaders’ or shareholders’ consciences. That means they should have the right to support gay rights and gender orientations that the governor rejects. And beyond that, corporations have the right to put their resources behind efforts to change the law. That’s what limited government is all about. And that is, in fact, what conservatives in the United States once championed.

In a recent speech in Charleston, South Carolina, DeSantis said: “A free state means you’re protecting your people from the left’s pathologies across the board.” But as Conor Friedersdorf points out in his excellent article in The Atlantic, this is not freedom. It is not the business of government to fight “woke ideology” or any other set of political opinions “across the board.” As governor of Florida, DeSantis can certainly work with the state Legislature to affect government policies, but he has now stepped over the line in attacking Disney’s right to free speech. Limited government gives people the freedom to disagree and to promote their opinions passionately.

Freedom of speech is vital to limited government because it is crucial to protecting a private sphere from governmental action. The overturning of Roe v. Wade was one dramatic step in eliminating this private sphere, and the implications of this decision are being felt throughout the country. Now we are seeing an assault on an equally important part of the private sphere.

Freedom of speech is more than freedom to hold an opinion quietly to oneself. It is the freedom to say what you believe and say it loudly. And it is the freedom to work with all your might to promote your beliefs. The so-called war on woke that DeSantis champions is a frontal assault on freedom of speech, and it is disturbing that so many people fail to see this. We can only hope that Disney’s constitutional rights will be protected in court. If DeSantis succeeds here, where will it end? Do we really want to live in a country where unpopular political opinions are rooted out everywhere? I certainly don’t.

In Marbury v. Madison, Justice Marshall warns us that we will find ourselves threatened by unlimited government if governmental powers and actors are not held in check. DeSantis is embracing the idea of unlimited government. We have a word for that, and it is not conservatism. It is called totalitarianism.
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