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Sunday, November 5, 2023 10:39:22 AM
OK, maybe not the day you get them, but after a few weeks acclimation.

What are some non-elite smokes you find are as good as they get without felling like you need to wait? IOW, they don't seem to benefit from a year in the box so you're happy to smoke 'em essentially ROTT. Last qualifier would be that you might actually buy them from time to time.
KingoftheCove
Sunday, November 5, 2023 12:36:47 PM
I have yet to find a cigar that wasn’t better at 3 months, than it was at 3 weeks.
That said, most any Connecticut, imo, doesn’t get much better after a year or so.
I like Papas Fritas pretty much ROTT, but haven’t really rested any of them long enough to determine if they are much better at 12 months, than they are at 3 weeks.
deadeyedick
Sunday, November 5, 2023 1:01:53 PM
Any RP 1990 or 1992. After all he claims the tobacco was forgotten in a warehouse for like 8 years before he found it.
Sunday, November 5, 2023 1:47:03 PM
Good Q. I'm interested in others answers.
For me besides connecticuts the Oliva O and G seem better before aging.
Mraia
Sunday, November 5, 2023 3:53:13 PM
Following this too. King, your saying the Connecticuts don’t actually improve with time? That’s good to know. Is that generally speaking or a specific brand?
Palama
Sunday, November 5, 2023 5:25:58 PM
[quote=deadeyedick]Any RP 1990 or 1992. After all he claims the tobacco was forgotten in a warehouse for like 8 years before he found it.[/quote]

Musta been a HUGE warehouse ‘cause I vaguely remember them on CBid when I found this site 10 years ago.

Or, of course:

1. They’re chitty sellers

2. RP puts in the tiniest amount of the tobacco, ala the Camacho Pre-Embargo gimmick, to qualify as cigars made from 1990 and 1992 years.
LeeBot
Sunday, November 5, 2023 5:46:55 PM
^ Yeah, I remember when these came out. It was probably 2006(ish). I had some of the OR. May still have one or two. So, around 17 years worth of cigars. HUGE warehouse.
PapaWhiskey
Sunday, November 5, 2023 6:05:55 PM
My brother in law buys and smokes RP The Edge Toro Maduro a box a week from a local shop and leaves them in his truck. I started talking about aging cigars and he laughed and said his oldest cigars are 7 days old 🇨🇮
KingoftheCove
Sunday, November 5, 2023 6:20:54 PM
[quote=PapaWhiskey]My brother in law buys and smokes RP The Edge Toro Maduro a box a week from a local shop and leaves them in his truck. I started talking about aging cigars and he laughed and said his oldest cigars are 7 days old 🇨🇮 [/quote]
Your BIL knows what he is doing!
RP boxes of cigars are perfect for leaving in your truck.
KingoftheCove
Sunday, November 5, 2023 6:29:17 PM
[quote=Mraia]Following this too. King, your saying the Connecticuts don’t actually improve with time? That’s good to know. Is that generally speaking or a specific brand?[/quote]
Just in general.
I don’t smoke that many connies, so I’m no expert.
That has simply been my experience.
Connies I smoke…
MF
San Lotano
Southern Draw
Perdomo (actually not in a long time now that I think about it)

Someone somewhere said the Virtue………wasn’t impressed at all…….but that was a long time ago.

I remember I accidentally “aged” a MF connie a couple years and smoked it a while back……….it didn’t blow me away as far as being that much better than one with a couple months on it.
Palama
Sunday, November 5, 2023 6:48:14 PM
[quote=KingoftheCove]I have yet to find a cigar that wasn’t better at 3 months, than it was at 3 weeks.
That said, most any Connecticut, imo, doesn’t get much better after a year or so.
I like Papas Fritas pretty much ROTT, but haven’t really rested any of them long enough to determine if they are much better at 12 months, than they are at 3 weeks.
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100% concur with KOTC. I’ve yet to find a Connie that ages well, on the contrary, with the thinness / delicateness of the wrapper, they sometimes get worse (…wrappers tend to crack…). While I’mma normally a 65% guy, I separately store all my Connies and some Cameroon cigars at 69% RH to, hopefully, keep them from drying out.

At this point in time, I’ll ash up a Connie as a change of pace but they’re no longer in my regular rotation like they were when I first started or went out in the morning with a cup of coffee and enjoyed the combination.
jeebling
Tuesday, February 27, 2024 9:34:06 PM
[quote=deadeyedick]Any RP 1990 or 1992. After all he claims the tobacco was forgotten in a warehouse for like 8 years before he found it.[/quote]
I’ve smoked almost 30 of the vintage 1990 and I got them in November. I like them but I don’t know what they’re like after resting for more than 3 months.
hnixon12
Wednesday, February 28, 2024 4:50:29 PM
ROTT is my middle name...smokem if you gotem....just sayin