Any idea why Toyota decided they needed to manufacture an oil filter housing that requires an $11 special tool to compress a spring inside the housing instead using the same twist on all-in-ones found on damn near every other passenger vehicle as well just about every heavy duty vehicle sold in the US in the past 1,000+ years?

Enquiring minds want to know.

I hate the new filters. They’re on more than you think. My John Deere combine has one. 9560sts

Jeeps have em. They suck. The housing will also fail. The. You’ve got that to replace. The spin on canister is far superior.

Haven’t ran into the ones with the spring needing a tool. Sounds lame

[quote=Jakethesnake86]I hate the new filters. They’re on more than you think. My John Deere combine has one. 9560sts

Jeeps have em. They suck. The housing will also fail. The. You’ve got that to replace. The spin on canister is far superior.

Haven’t ran into the ones with the spring needing a tool. Sounds lame[/quote]

Broke the POS OE black plastic one. Seems the last time the oil was changed a crayon strong gorilla tightened the cap. Had to use a 650 ft lbs torque impact wrench to unscrew it. It took a good 10 seconds of ratcheting before it broke fee and began turning.

Replaced it with a cast aluminum one. Don’t plan to tighten it near as much as grape ape did the last time it was changed.

That’s just Toyotas way of saying “You should buy a Model 3”.

[quote=Brewha]That’s just Toyotas way of saying “You should buy a Model 3”.[/quote]

They kinda hung a curveball and it’s out of here!

FIFY

[quote=Brewha]I am a troll.[/quote]

A Camry cost twice as much to operate as a Model 3, is genuinely slower, has 20th century tech and needs oil changes - that sux.

The jury says: “Camry - Not ready for Prime Time”.

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[quote=Brewha]I am a troll, part dieux. [/quote]

Oh, come on now... even I laughed.

You threw a slow pitch and he whacked it.

Home run

Or was it they do built **** now days to make more money . It is called engineering. To make something the customer will break and have to keep buying . Job security my shop teacher told me a story one time about a local saw mill . The steel the were using for shafts was some cold rolled bull**** . He built them one with good steel and they did not need another for a long time . But when they had a problem they always called him. The machine shop they were using was screwing them and making money constantly. When he started doing it they had no more problems. Just sayin ….

In fairness, Toyota has a well deserved reputation for building the most reliable and longest lasting cars there are.

They are guilty of over design for the sake of reliability. While a BMW will some what commonly have their oil pump come loose, leak and cause “engine failure”, on a Camry you need a special tool just to remove the oil filter.

And, if Anthony drives it for ten, twenty or thirty years, he may save enough to buy a sense of humor…….

[quote=MACS]Oh, come on now... even I laughed.

You threw a slow pitch and he whacked it.[/quote]

I guess. I was posting while laying on a creeper waiting for my son to get back from the auto parts store a 1/2 mile up the road. Ended up making five trips today.

1) needed washer solvent

2) little Johnny Moron gave me the wrong oil filter for son’s Mustang the other day. So he had to return that one while I was under the car.

3) broke 2 brake pad harness pin bolts because grape ape over tightened them last time she had the brakes changed. Needed replacement bolts. Went with him.

4) needed special tool to remove wife’s car’s oil filter cap. Waited under car on creeper.

5) broke oil filter cap thanks to grape ape over tightening it last time she had the oil changed. Needed a replacement cap. Waited under car on creeper.

So yea I’ve been I a pissy mood.

Little Johnny MORON is everywhere you go . Box stores and all . When someone actually ask if I need help I telll them real fast thank you for asking . Cause these kids these days could care less. But you do have the over achieving young dumbasses to that don’t know **** . But will try and tell a machinist thread sizes . I always find that fun and fudge with them. I cut threads on a lathe for 20 years , I worked in a production plant all that time . I was the plant manager I know how **** works . I just want a 1/4 20 bolt dammit. I understand fully.

[quote=corey sellers]Little Johnny MORON is everywhere you go . Box stores and all . When someone actually ask if I need help I telll them real fast thank you for asking . Cause these kids these days could care less. But you do have the over achieving young dumbasses to that don’t know **** . But will try and tell a machinist thread sizes . I always find that fun and fudge with them. I cut threads on a lathe for 20 years , I worked in a production plant all that time . I was the plant manager I know how **** works . I just want a 1/4 20 bolt dammit. I understand fully. [/quote]

Yep. He looked it up and wrote the number on a sticky so I could grab it off the shelf. He transposed a couple numbers.

[quote=Abrignac]Yep. He looked it up and wrote the number on a sticky so I could grab it off the shelf. He transposed a couple numbers. [/quote]

hmmm...not so gud wif numbahs.

maybe he's gud wif wurds?

We can’t be good at everything

[quote=Brewha]In fairness, Toyota has a well deserved reputation for building the most reliable and longest lasting cars there are.

I seriously doubt their version of an oil filtration device retainer is heads and shoulders better than the competiton.

They are guilty of over design for the sake of reliability. While a BMW will some what commonly have their oil pump come loose, leak and cause “engine failure”, on a Camry you need a special tool just to remove the oil filter.

Oil pump leak? Oil pumps are attached to the block, pump oil through a passageway way milled into the block and are accessed by removing the oil pan so they aren’t known to leak. But to come loose because an engine assembly technician failed to properly torque it to specification, that’s certainly possible. But the most likely cause of a BMW oil pump coming loose is because the engine spent a large amount of time reving over 6000 rpm’s. Keep in mind most BMW’s rev around 2800-3300 at 70 mph.

And, if Anthony drives it for ten, twenty or thirty years, he may save enough to buy a sense of humor…….

Ok I smiled a little at that.

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But you failed to mention BMW’s most famed Achilles tendon. It’s the water pump impeller. They’re plastic. It’s well know that it’s not a matter of if, but when it’s going to fail. When it does it’s a $1,000+ repair at a dealership. It’s one of the main reasons people trade in their BMW’s prior to the warranty ending.

My son had a 5 series. Don’t remember which one. But I had to replace the water pump. Did it myself. Fairly painless to do. Bought an aftermarket pump with a metal impeller. Was about 1/2 the price of a OE pump that came with another plastic impeller. Saved about $700 - $800 on parts and labor while installing a much more durable pump.

Wife totaled it shortly thereafter. Her and our daughter walked away without a scratch.

Owned 2 German cars. Not doing that again.

#1 - the German engineering expires with the warranty, if not before

#2 - everything is difficult to do yourself or requires special tools

#3 - everything is expensive... parts, maintenance, service

Do they drive awesome? Yup. Are they worth the extra $$$? Nope.

[quote=MACS]Owned 2 German cars. Not doing that again.

#1 - the German engineering expires with the warranty, if not before

Pretty much.

#2 - everything is difficult to do yourself or requires special tools

Mostly true with a few exceptions.

#3 - everything is expensive... parts, maintenance, service

Absolutely

Do they drive awesome? Yup. Are they worth the extra $$$? Nope.[/quote]

Without a doubt. Absolutely not.