[quote=LeeBot]^What? Smoke an Oliva Serie V, pay attention and keep an open mind, and then tell me you don't pick up notes of garbage juice and stale flatulence. [/quote]

Stale flatulence can be revived with enough humidity and warmth.

[quote=jeebling]How long does it take before the cello begins to show yellow? Different according to wrapper I’d bet. What is your experience brothers? I’ve never kept a cigar more than a year, probably more like 9 months I’m guessing. [/quote]

More oily cigars will make em darker over time. I'd imagine storing in a more dynamic environment would speed up the cello color change with frequent humidity changes. Cigar releases water vapor and some oils as they dry, the oils don't cross the cello membrane and get trapped while the water vapor moves in and out.

I have some lighter cigars that have a few years that have barely tinted the cello. I have some that are noticeably yellowed after just a year. It's not something you can gauge age on reliably but if it is yellowed, it's safe to say it's been around for a while.

Sobremesa ages very well

[quote=jeebling]Stale flatulence can be revived with enough humidity and warmth. [/quote]

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[quote=Stogie1020]MF Le Bijou/quote]

I'm probably the only guy here that's had a bad experience with the Le Bijou. Bout 5 or 6 yrs ago I bought a 5 pack of the short robusto size.

They tasted awful--had a really sour taste. I haven't purchased or smoked any since then. I think King told me that maybe they weren't cured right?

Palama told me to bury the rest for at least 5 yrs. I have two left and it's about time to test them.

I'd like to revisit the blend entirely, maybe get a fiver of the torpedo. What size do buy for this blend?

[quote=RobertHively][quote=Stogie1020]MF Le Bijou/quote]

I'm probably the only guy here that's had a bad experience with the Le Bijou. Bout 5 or 6 yrs ago I bought a 5 pack of the short robusto size.

They tasted awful--had a really sour taste. I haven't purchased or smoked any since then. I think King told me that maybe they weren't cured right?

Palama told me to bury the rest for at least 5 yrs. I have two left and it's about time to test them.

I'd like to revisit the blend entirely, maybe get a fiver of the torpedo. What size do buy for this blend?

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For me the petit robusto is the best of the bunch, but they do need some time. I've had the toro and robusto also but default to the petite.

For Le Bijous, I like the Pet Rob and Churchill the best.

I prefer the smaller ring gauge.

Used to be able to steal the Churchill now and again at the other place back in the day………..no more.

[quote=RobertHively][quote=Stogie1020]MF Le Bijou/quote]

I'm probably the only guy here that's had a bad experience with the Le Bijou. Bout 5 or 6 yrs ago I bought a 5 pack of the short robusto size.

They tasted awful--had a really sour taste. I haven't purchased or smoked any since then. I think King told me that maybe they weren't cured right?

Palama told me to bury the rest for at least 5 yrs. I have two left and it's about time to test them.

I'd like to revisit the blend entirely, maybe get a fiver of the torpedo. What size do buy for this blend?

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I like the torpedo and the petite robusto.

[quote=RobertHively][quote=Stogie1020]MF Le Bijou/quote]

I'm probably the only guy here that's had a bad experience with the Le Bijou. Bout 5 or 6 yrs ago I bought a 5 pack of the short robusto size.

They tasted awful--had a really sour taste. I haven't purchased or smoked any since then. I think King told me that maybe they weren't cured right?

Palama told me to bury the rest for at least 5 yrs. I have two left and it's about time to test them.

I'd like to revisit the blend entirely, maybe get a fiver of the torpedo. What size do buy for this blend?

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That’s been my usual words of experience and hopefully it still holds true.

Because of my initial disdain for them, the only LB I bought were the Petite Robusto and the Toro Fino, a Hawaii exclusive.

I need to dig out the few remaining PRs and TFs I have left before they go past their prime. 😰

Foundation the Tabernacle Broadleaf Maduro

Was really impressed with this one the other evening.

More so than when I bought them 4 or 5 years ago??

They age well, would buy again. Great flavor, and nice kick for an older cigar.

Conan, still haven't revisited the Le Bijou, but did locate them and set them out to be smoked.

As a result of recent unprovoked attacks from Corey, I’ve formed the opinion that LFD in various wrappers is outstanding at the 6 year date and the Tatuaje Black Lancero is excellent at the 5 year mark.

[quote=RobertHively][quote=Stogie1020]MF Le Bijou/quote]

I'm probably the only guy here that's had a bad experience with the Le Bijou. Bout 5 or 6 yrs ago I bought a 5 pack of the short robusto size.

They tasted awful--had a really sour taste. I haven't purchased or smoked any since then. I think King told me that maybe they weren't cured right?

Palama told me to bury the rest for at least 5 yrs. I have two left and it's about time to test them.

I'd like to revisit the blend entirely, maybe get a fiver of the torpedo. What size do buy for this blend?

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I’ve smoked more than my share of the box pressed torpedoes. Many of them 8 years old or older. When properly aged that Long or older they can be truly sublime.

Contrary to what most people say I prefer to age my cigars at a bit higher rh than what most folks here suggest. I aim for 70/70. There’s a reason that’s the defacto standard for cigar manufacturers. At that point I find the oils don’t dry out as much as they do at 62 or 65 %. To me that makes a huge difference over time. At the same token they need to be checked and rotated frequently to prevent mold growth.

When ready to smoke I’ll bring the humidity down to 62-63% but only on the cigars I plan to smoke within a few months.

Conan already mentioned it, but Jaime Garcia’s age really well.

Most dark La Flor Dominicana, (Double Ligero, Colorado Oscuro, La Nox) age well.

Litto Gomez Diez Original and Small Batch.

Illusione Maduros, cg4, mk12, Ultra and Illusione Corojos, like 88, Original Documents 4/2g

Less pricey options that age well: 601 La Bomba, Blue and Green; San Cristobal Ecuador Habano Oscuro

Good Corojo cigars hold up well also. El Gueguense, Original Camacho Corojo, Leaf by Oscar, C.L.E. Corojo, HVC Serie A