JonR
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Saturday, December 17, 2005 4:31:00 AM
Oh Yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!

House acts to stop illegal entrants, workers

Bill tightens border controls but puts off guest worker program.

Updated: 12:19 a.m. ET Dec. 17, 2005

WASHINGTON - The House acted Friday to stem the tide of illegal immigration by taking steps to tighten border controls and stop unlawful immigrants from getting jobs. But lawmakers left for next year the tougher issue of what to do with the 11 million undocumented people already in the country.

The House legislation, billed as a border protection, anti-terrorism and illegal immigration control act, includes such measures as enlisting military and local law enforcement help in stopping illegal entrants and requiring employers to verify the legal status of their workers. It authorizes the building of a fence along parts of the U.S.-Mexico border.

But it put off consideration of a guest worker program, which President Bush and many in Congress say must be part of a lasting solution to the illegal immigrant crisis.

The vote was 239-182, with opposition coming from Democrats and some Republicans upset by the exclusion of the guest worker issue and other Republicans wanting tougher border control measures.

Bush praised the House for approving the bill. “America is a nation built on the rule of law, and this bill will help us protect our borders and crack down on illegal entry into the United States,” he said in a statement. “I urge the Senate to take action on immigration reform so that I can sign a good bill into law.”

One measure that Republican leaders wouldn’t allow a vote on was a volatile proposal to deny citizenship to babies born in this country to illegal immigrants.

The issue next moves to the Senate, where Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn., says he will bring up immigration legislation in February that will provide a framework for guest worker ideas.

Fate of guest workers unclear

Nobody is advocating the deportation of 11 million illegal immigrants, said Rep. Jeff Flake, R-Ariz., sponsor of a guest worker measure. Without a temporary worker program, he said, “We simply won’t enforce the law, and that’s the dirty little secret here.”

While many agree with Flake, there are wide differences on the details of a guest worker program. Some lawmakers would require those in the country illegally to leave before applying for such a program, arguing that counterproposals allowing those already here to seek legal status is equivalent to amnesty.

Bush has proposed that undocumented immigrants be allowed to get three-year work visas. They could extend those for an additional three years, but would then have to return to their home countries for a year to apply for a new work permit.

The House bill would beef up border security with the help of local law enforcement and military technology, impose tougher penalties for smuggling and re-entry, and end the “catch and release” policy for illegal non-Mexicans. It makes drunken driving convictions a deportable offense.

The bill makes unlawful presence in the United States, currently a civil offense, a felony. An amendment to reduce the crime from a felony to a misdemeanor was defeated, with many Democrats voting against the proposal in protest over subjecting people who have overstayed their visas to any criminal charges.

Lottery program ended

The House also voted 273-148 to end the diversity visa lottery program that’s open to countries that send few immigrations to the United States. Opponents said it was susceptible to fraud and could be a way for terrorists to enter the country.

On Thursday, the House approved an amendment calling for construction of a fence in parts of California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas.

The most sweeping provision of the House bill would require all employers in the country, more than 7 million, to submit Social Security numbers and other information to a national data base to verify the legal status of workers.

The U.S. Chamber of Commerce and other business groups protested this provision as unworkable, while immigrant rights groups said some of the new penalties were draconian.

By making it a crime to be present in the country illegally, said the National Immigration Forum, foreign students who drop a class or high tech workers who lose jobs and take too long to find a new employer sponsor would be subject to arrest.

Calls for broader reform

“A migratory reform that only addresses security will not resolve the bilateral immigration problem,” Mexican President Vicente Fox’s spokesman Ruben Aguilar said Friday. “It is indispensable to establish legal, secure and ordered migration. Our countrymen make an enormous contribution to the United States economy.”

But sponsors, led by House Judiciary Committee Chairman James Sensenbrenner, R-Wis., and Homeland Security Committee Chairman Peter King, R-N.Y., insisted the bill was a needed step to restoring the integrity of U.S. borders and re-establishing respect for the law.

The White House said in a statement that it strongly supported the House bill, adding that it “remains committed to comprehensive immigration reform, including a temporary worker program that avoids amnesty.”

Oh yeah, all the right moves.

JonR

tey
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Sunday, December 18, 2005 7:02:00 AM
Aw, u mad doggie? No one responded to your post.
TrannyMk
Sunday, December 18, 2005 7:14:00 AM
Thanks JonR for an informative article about this bill. I agree with the vote.

Tey. You are the upset one. If you think not seeing this post changes anything about the facts contained in it, you are sadly mistaken.

You and your assosiates are the losers of this vote, not JonR.

Charlie
Sunday, December 18, 2005 7:34:00 AM
Good response TrannyMk

I have been trying to stay a little out of the fire on these lately, but could not resist this one!

Charlie

jetblasted
Sunday, December 18, 2005 7:37:00 AM
Thanks . . .
rugrunner
Sunday, December 18, 2005 9:13:00 AM
Can we still do the minefield?
tey
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Sunday, December 18, 2005 11:23:00 AM
I will be sure to send you pictures of dead mexican kids so you can be happy your minefield works!
8trackdisco
Sunday, December 18, 2005 11:32:00 AM
Kids should listen to their parents. If the parents break the law, the children follow them and go KA BLEWWY, that is on the parents raising their children to be law breakers. It isn't on the US governemnt.

Decisions have consequences.

tailgater
Sunday, December 18, 2005 11:40:00 AM
What are you doing with pictures of dead Mexican kids?
Charlie
Sunday, December 18, 2005 12:19:00 PM
Nobody is going to build minefields in the United States, and tey what up with the dead Mexican Kids?

Charlie

tey
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Sunday, December 18, 2005 12:21:00 PM
nuttin's up with em just trying to help rug envision his perfect utopian soceity.
tailgater
Sunday, December 18, 2005 5:31:00 PM
Yes, you are very helpful like that.

adroomi
Sunday, December 18, 2005 5:41:00 PM
Pol Pot started over at the year zero and built a new society. He also put landmines up to stop the "lessers" from ruining his perfect land. The Chinese put up a wall. We want to put up a fence.

I say we kill everyone with less than a six figure income, and make everyone with less than a terminal degree servants.

8trackdisco
Sunday, December 18, 2005 5:45:00 PM
If you think, we think, you make six figures as a flight attendant, you've got another thing coming.

(An oldy but a goody).

Stay safe over there.

Merry Xmas.

adroomi
Sunday, December 18, 2005 6:53:00 PM
Thanks....you too.

I was warm and sunny just yesterday morning, and now I'm back to freezing my tail off. Winter is only fun if you are on a snowmachine or something like that. City winters just plain suck.

erkwgz
Sunday, December 18, 2005 7:12:00 PM
Winter just sucks unless you are not commuting or working in it. I do like the first big snowfall though. Makes everything look like new.
JonR
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Sunday, December 18, 2005 9:30:00 PM
Mexico's new national anthem;

.....Don't Fence Me Out.....

Oh, give me land, lots of land under starry skies above

Don't fence me out

Let me ride through the wide open country that I love

Don't fence me out

Let me be by myself in the evenin' breeze

And listen to the murmur of the cottonwood trees

Send me off forever but I ask you please

Don't fence me out

I want to ride to the ridge where the West commences

And gaze at the moon till I lose my senses

And I can't look at hobbles and I can't stand fences

Don't fence me out

Oh, give me land, lots of land under starry skies

Don't fence me out

Let me ride through the wide country that I love

Don't fence me out

Let me be by myself in the evenin' breeze

And listen to the murmur of the cottonwood trees

Send me off forever but I ask you please

Don't fence me out.

JonR

andytv
Monday, December 19, 2005 5:23:00 AM
I saw a special the other night on the outfit that provides medical attention to illegal immigrants who are lost/injured, etc. A lot die from exposure, dehydration, etc.

During the program, the ones who were shipped back had the same story again and again....."We came here for work"............."People WANT us here to work", etc.

Would most agree that the reason most illegal immigrants enter the US is for work?

Charlie
Monday, December 19, 2005 5:26:00 AM
Yes, that is the number one reason! Mexico is such a poor economy, they come here to try and better themselves and to take care of their families in Mexico!

Charlie