MikeyRavioli
19 years ago
http://www.davekopel.org/Terror/Fiftysix-Deceits-in-Fahrenheit-911.htm 

This has probably been posted before, but with the conversations about his new movie, I felt it should be brought up again.

The man uses some really deceptive practices in his "documentaries".
SteveS
19 years ago

A documentary is definded as: "Presenting facts objectively without editorializing or inserting fictional matter, as in a book or film."


By definition, because of his heavy eiditorializing and constant insertion of fictional matter, Michael MOOre does not make documentaries at all ... but he describes them as such and the liberal media plays along with him and continues to refer to his works using that term ..

He is anti-American, yet takes advantage of the American system he claims to despize to enrich himself at the expense of the gullible who will pay their money to see his films.

He is despicable in the extreme, and in my view, lower than whale **** on the bottom of the ocean
tailgater
19 years ago
It's been shown time and again that Moore's films contain lies. Once you've established this, it's proper to assume that even the "truths" are misrepresented.
Anyone who believes a single word that Moore says is a complete idiot.
He has created a fortune by being anti-American. As such, his fan base is as much to blame as he is.

59 lies? That's just the tip of the iceburg.
Charlie
19 years ago
Michael Moore is a charlaton...he is a phony, he is a liar, he is anything but a documentary film director.

Charlie
donutboy2000
19 years ago
So you mean he is a politician?
burgess_b
19 years ago
a teacher here in japan was one of the people asked about canada, and was told EXACTLY what to say...at the time, you want to be in a movie, so you say it...she regretted it, and now hates teh deceiver with a passion!
jpotts
19 years ago
"So you mean he is a politician?"

Ahem...don't give him any ideas.
jpotts
19 years ago
^ Michael Moore, that is.
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  • Herf-A-Holic
19 years ago
How can you tell he's lieing....His mouth is moving. The guy has made a fortune trying to ryle folks up.
xibbumbero
19 years ago
How do these compare to hundreds dubya has layed on us? X
tailgater
19 years ago
Ok, I'll bite:
Since there are hundreds of lies from Dubya, X should be able to easily name his top 5.

And if you start with "WMD", you'll have to conceed that the rest of the world and our previous administration were lying as well.

Go.
SteveS
19 years ago
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Author: tailgater Date: 06/21/2007 09:27 AM
if you start with "WMD", you'll have to conceed
that the rest of the world and our previous
administration were lying as well.
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Rest of the world? ... previous administration?? ... actually, there was NEVER any doubt that Sadaam was in possession of WMD ... and NO ONE knew that better than the US, because we'd provided him with plenty of them back when he was fighting with Iran ... not to mention the fact that he'd actually USED them against some of his own people ...

But, the libs love the line and continue to use it without concerning themselves with inconvenient facts ...
cbc812
19 years ago
^ Um, so where are they?
SteveS
19 years ago
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Author: cbc812 Date: 06/21/2007 09:48 AM
Um, so where are they?
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For well more than a decade, Sadaam played a shell game with the UN, hiding them in one place, then moving them around to hide in another ... although we've found some since his ouster, we've not found anywhere near what was known to have existed ... it's quite likely that many, of not all, of the rest were moved to Syria but it's also possible that they still abound in Iraq and we've just not turned them up yet ...

As you no doubt remember, Sadaam was found hiding in a 'spider hole' which was only slightly larger than your average casket ... we were acting on a tip and were still lucky to have found him ... when you consider that enough WMD to wipe out NYC could have been hidden in that space and consider that Iraq is the approximate size of California, you can only imagine how many other holes there could be in which the WMDs are buried ... it could easily be decades or even centeruies before they're found IF they're ever found at all ... after all, many of the former leaders who might have known where those hiding places were are now in the ground themselves ...

This is clearly a case where absence of proof does NOT equal proof of absence ...
MikeyRavioli
19 years ago
Ah, an excellent use of a classic diversionary tactic.
When confronted with lies, point the finger to someone else.
xibbumbero
19 years ago
Kinda like what youse guyz do,LOL. X
cbc812
19 years ago
"This is clearly a case where absence of proof does NOT equal proof of absence ..."

You can't prove a negative like this, my friend. Prove to me that Osama bin Laden is not hiding in the White House. Prove to me that the US government doesn't have secret stockpiles of radioactive marshmallows squirreled away throughout the country. You can't.

"When confronted with lies, point the finger to someone else."

Ah, yes. This makes perfect sense. All of th Bush supporters seem to forget that when Mochael Moore lies, people will stop buying his books and seeing his movies. When George Bush lies, entire countries get ruined, American soldiers die, and the government gets to tap your phone. But that's okay, right?

If it makes you feel better to pillory Michael Moore, then go for it. He's an entertainer.

I am personally much more upset about someone dismantling the Constitution, but I'm not a religious nutcase or a gun nut, so I actually think about who and what I support.

While we're on the topic of despicable liars in the entertainment industry, I have to say that I just hate that darn Wile E. Coyote - always using trickery and false signage to hurt the Roadrunner. Charlatan! Liar! Must be another America hater.

MikeyRavioli
19 years ago
I honestly do not beleive that bush "lied".
Men lie for very few reasons. Usually sex, power, or money.
Sex = n/a.
Power = already the POTUS. The most powerful man in the world.
Money = A rich man from a rich family. Arguably a hell of a lot easier ways to make money then starting a war with Iraq.

I do think that he loosely interpreted questionable data and intelligence to see what he wanted to see. What everyone forgets is that the whole friggin world beleived what he beleived at the time. Kerry, Hillary, and a bunch of other Dems are quoted linking Saddam and 9/11 during their campaigns.

Moore is a liar. Moore has personally profited more off the War in Iraq then Bush has. Moore has made a name as a famous film maker. Bush has made his name as the worst president in history.
MikeyRavioli
19 years ago
Not to mention $$$$$
Moore has lines his pockets on the bodies of dead American soldiers.

Was Farenheit 9/11 a non-profit film? It made a **** load of money. How much money did Bush pocket off the war?
cbc812
19 years ago
"Bush has made his name as the worst president in history."

On this we agree. Just in case you don't think that Bush is a bald-faced, liar, please ckeck out the following links:

http://www.georgewalkerbush.net/toptenlies.htm 

http://www.bushlies.net/ 

http://citypages.com/databank/24/1182/article11417.asp 

Now I ask you - which is more officious and dangerous to the public and our democracy - a pompous filmmaker using half truths to create buzz, or the leader of the free world lying about policies and decisions by which people in the US and elsewhere live or die - literally and economically> I would submit that the latter is far worse.
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