HISTORY TEST

Please pause a moment, reflect back, and take the following Multiple Choice test. The events are actual cuts from past history.

Do you remember?

1. In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were kidnapped and
massacred by:
a. Olga Corbitt
b. Sitting Bull
c. Arnold Schwartzeneger
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

2. In 1979, the U.S. embassy in Iran was taken over by:
a. Lost Norwegians
b. Elvis
c. A tour bus full of 80-year-old women
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40.

3. During the 1980's a number of Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon by:
a. John Dillinger
b. The King of Sweden
c. The Boy Scouts
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

4. In 1983, the U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by:
a. A pizza delivery boy
b. Pee Wee Herman
c. Geraldo Rivera
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

5. In 1985 the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked and a 70 year
old American passenger was murdered and thrown overboard in his
wheelchair by:
a. The Smurfs
b. Davy Jones
c. The Little Mermaid
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

6. In 1985 TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens, and a U.S. Navy
diver trying to rescue passengers was murdered by:
a. Captain Kidd
b. Charles Lindberg
c. Mother Teresa
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and40

7. In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by:
a. Scooby Doo
b. The Tooth Fairy
c. Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40


8. In 1993 the World Trade Center was bombed the first time by:
a. Richard Simmons
b. Grandma Moses
c. Michael Jordan
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

9. In 1998, the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by:
a. Mr. Rogers
b. Hillary Clinton
c. The World Wrestling Federation
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

10. On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked; two were used as missiles to take out the World Trade Centers and of the remaining two, one crashed into the US Pentagon and the other was diverted a crashed by the passengers. Thousands of people were killed by:
a. Bugs Bunny, Wiley E. Coyote, Daffy Duck and Elmer Fudd
b. The Supreme Court of Florida
c. Mr. Bean
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

11. In 2002 the United States fought a war in Afghanistan against:
a. Enron
b. The Lutheran Church
c. The NFL
d.. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

12. In 2002 reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and murdered by:
a. Bonny and Clyde
b. Captain Kangaroo
c. Billy Graham
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40


Nope .........I really don't see a pattern here to justify profiling, do you?

This is a trick test and there is a pattern. All answers are "C",my old stand by. X

Uh, the pattern is that you have an extremely selective redneck-y history going on here. Good to see some good old race-baiting going on here at Cbid.com. Real inspiring.

well said john!! The same selective history can be dug up on any group, catholics, blacks, whites.. any group!! Take this $hit elsewhere!!

Professor, you may be right.
I'm admittedly terrible at history.

But the ONLY large-scale incidents of "Terroism" that I can remember against Americans that isn't listed above is the Oklahoma City tragedy, the Unibomber, the Tylenol Scare and the mid-atlantic Sniper case. And other than Timothy McViegh, the only motives were random insanity rather than a political agenda.

Maybe I'm missing something, and maybe the list presented here is indeed selective as you suggest. But I can't think of any others.

It's only "race-baiting" when the facts are purposely skewed. Please show us how these historical references are distorting the truth.
I'm very open minded to see the forest for the trees.

In other words, I do not feel that every Muslim is a terrorist. But I do see a real reason to profile.

by the way, I did mean in recent history.
Going back 200 years doesn't count.

Lighten up guys... this was simply cut and pasted from another site... I'm sure we could put together lists for any select group we wish... and I thought Muslim was religion rather than a race, however I believe that the individuals who committed these crimes were not true Muslims but people using the religion to further their own agendas.

As far as profiling, it is used everyday in all kinds of areas. Anyone who has flown recently has been profiled, by a machine. If the metal detector beeps as you go thru you have been selected from a low profile. (If you have metal on your person you may have a weapon). Most of the arguments on profiling really revolve around the level of the profiling.

John

John

now isn't that against your constitutional rights??

I think So... so why are people not raising the Issue?

John good to see you back at the Boards... I was worried about you!!!

Hey I've been Profiled on here.... I want to take the 5th LMAO!!!!!!

Hog

I must be missing something here ... the issue seems clear enough to me ... in addressing the very serious issue of a string of what, for the sake of this thread, we'll call crimes has been committed ... a pattern has been observed as to who the perpetrators of this string of crimes seems to be ... are the police justified in looking for people who in the broad general, match the description of the perps? Or do they ignore the facts and assume any and every passerby could be the guilty parties ??? And, what in the hell does the fact that other crimes have also been committed, although by perpetrators of some other description have to do with the first group of crimes ???

If a 50+ white haired sub-6 foot tall Anglo with a beard been identified as the person who knocked over a jewelry store, a bank, a convenience store, a gas station and a fast food joint, should the police be "profiling" dark haired young men in their 20s or would they have a greater probable cause to take a second look at ME ??? Would I be justified in protesting that I was being unfairly singled out while CWilhelmi has not been questioned??? Give me a frickin' break !!! Should the ACLU take up my cause, and point out that there are other crimes which have been committed by a 20-something guy who's somewhat taller than 6' with dark hair and no beard???? I mean, what the blue bloody hell does one have to do with another ???

There's been a rather disturbing incidence of events unfold in which young muslim males are the perps ... in order to prevent further incidents, guys matching that description should damn well be taken a look at ... and if, at the same time, a bunch of gray-bearded guys is found to be carrying out a string of crimes in California, both Rickamaven and myself have little cause for complaint if we are questioned in connection with those crimes ... for investigatores to take any other approach is unreasonable, unfeasible and bound to be unproductive ...

race baiting??? color of hair baiting? that, IMNSHO is nothing less than a king sized load of pure, unadulterated horsesh*t ...

Apparently cwilhelmi and jdrabinski think only their Sh*t belongs here...LOL

Well put Steve!

JJ

Steve - Your confusing my argument. I'm not saying that racial profiling shouldn't be used, albeit carefully and without personal bias. I'm a realist and I understand the scope of work that our enforcement groups deal with.

What I'm saying is you can put together a stupid list like this for ANY group. But this is a selective list trying to single out one group and painting a case for profiling them in particular.

It seems like more anti-muslim propaghanda that we definitly don't need considering the increase of hate crimes committed on innocent muslims since 9/11.

CW, I'm not sure which argument is whose ... my entire point is that we've got a pretty good idea of who the perps in a bunch of problems are, although not by individual name, but by general description ... in this case, young, Muslim males ...

Introducing the fact that other crimes (i.e. the Murra bldg in Oklahoma City) have been committed by young non-muslim males is what's confusing the issue ... the original post quite accurately pointed out that there's been a string of incidents attributeable to a common group and poses the question, should anyone be surprised that those in this group, whether they are individually the perps or not, are being looked at more carefully than those who're clearly not in that group ... Waco (which was actually caused by a middle aged, tall, white woman), Oklahoma City or that recent noon-time killing of a woman near your work have nothing in the world to do with the string of terrorist incidents mentioned in the original post ... introducing these, or indicents like them (as someone did in this thread) serves only to muddy the water and cast aspersions at the original poster ... which I noted happened in more than one response

Bottom line is: young Muslim males have committed a number of atrocities against the United States ... taking a second look at young Muslim males is necessary and practical ... it's not some form of race-baiting .... and do you think for one second that the unfortunate hate crimes (that should NOT take place ... hell, I'm not over at my next door neighbors house with an Uzi ... he's FROM the middle east, but he's NOT one of the criminals ... do you think that if the roles were reversed ... if two years ago, some bunch of young, white "Americans" had performed anything even approaching comparable acts in Tehran, Bahgdad or anywhere else in that part of the world, do you imagine for one second that you or even a not-so-young guy as myself would be able to draw anywhere near as easy a breath as my neighbor can ??? You can bet your a** we'd have been up to our necks in alligators a long ol' time ago ... unfortunate that those things happen? ... yes ... unreasonable and unfair? ... you betcha ..... caused by some sort of racial fervor??? I think not ... I think that sort of thing is caused by whatever distinctions are observalbe .... if young white guys with purple spiked hair were killing cab drivers, you can bet no cabbie would be picking up a fare meeting that description, and might in fact be prone to mayhem at a punk rocker concert ...

guess that leaves me back where I started ... except now it's spiked purple hair baiting ...

SteveS

steves you took my name in vain, but you are forgiven. some profiling is necessary.

problem is racial profiling in the usa, with blacks much more likely to be stopped driving a fancy new car then a white, isn't profiling, it's racism. the underlying is
1. blacks can't afford a fancy car
2. that **** has a better car then me, i'll give him a hard time. (if the word offends you, it's the title of one of ****** gregory's books.

When my oldest son was a cub reporter for the newspaper, he and a fellow scribe decided to share an apartment in an area that neither could ever have afforded on his own ... both of them were driving beat up old cars that stood in sharp contrast to those driven by most of the rest of the community ...

By now you're getting ahead of me, aren't you?? ... and yes, you're right, one night my boy got pulled over with the same sort of flimsy BS from the cop that the black guy in Rickamaven's story probably got ... "oh, we're investigating a break-in that occured near here and you sorta fit the profile of ..." had he thought the cop to be speaking honestly, he'd not have had a problem, but the prejudice was evident from the ensuing sobriety checks and tread-depth measurement on his tires ...they dug pretty hard to find something ... anything ... and my boy spoke out strongly enough, he got a little rough treatment ... nothing more than some rough handling, but still, it was a very powerful life-lesson and a clear insight into what people whose color isn't going to change the way my young son's did after he made a little $$$ ...

I know abuses exist ... but don't say or even imply that those abuses are limited to one political side of the aisle, any one race or ethnic background, any particular religion, age, socio-economic condition or whatever ... because it just ain't so.

Soon after 9/11, a poll questioned American Citizens if profiling should be used.
I don't have the figures, but black Americans had a significantly higher percentage of "Yes" votes to profiling than did white Americans.
I don't know the nature of the polling questions, but it's obvious that many people only feel that profiling is bad when they are the recipient.
Racism and Profiling are two seperate entities. The line between them is a fine one that always gets blurred when well-intended buffoons interfere and cry foul when none has been committed.

If it takes profiling to make sure America is safe, then so be it! ACLU and liberal leftist would tear down our saftey and protection if it meant to serve their causes and give them more publicity. I do not care how we catch the Young Muslim Males that seem to thrive on killing Americans in the name of their warped God!

Charlie

JGJAM: GASP! How DARE you post facts!! Don't you know facts are OFFENSIVE and confusing to right-minded folks???

Some university sociology department did a study a few years ago, and the clear indication was that white Americans are the least discriminatory of the major ethnic groups living here. Other minority groups are far worse to each other (and whites) than we are to them. (Note that this study did not take place in Alabama.)

Please do not use the words "study" and "Alabama" in the same sentence...

LOL at tailgator...

John