Tailgater,

It is suspected that everyone carries at least one rare copy of a lethal gene on their chromosomes(this means a defective copy of a required gene to live), but since everyone gets two copies of a gene(one from mom and one from dad) ususally one copy is good which mutes the lethatl one. However, that's why inbreeding is bad, since the likelihood of getting two bad copies of the same gene is very high.

When you hear of people that have a rare genetic disease, that means that both their father and mother carried the gene but it was recessive. When they mated, they both gave the bad copy to their offspring, hence the offspring gets the disease. Many traits are recessive, like hair color, eye color, to deadly diseases. Homosexuality can be spread if it is a recessive gene.

But we all know sometimes homosexuals do mate with the opposite sex and have kids. Haven't you watch Jerry Springer episode?

choner

Again Choner are you saying the homosexuality is a defect in humans? It sounds like that in reading your last two posts.

No Plbonte, I'll just using defects as an example. I could of used eye color. Like if two brown eyed people had a kid that has blue eyes. I just used extreme defects because it is more interesting.

choner

Holy cow! I just posted this because it came across the news while I was reading the boards. Now, it's taken on a life of its own.

"It's alive! It's alive!" Baron Frankenstein

OK. Thanks for clarifying

plabonte

if the one getting the sex change operation and has his **** removed

1. can he still write his name in the snow.

2. could it be attached to his partner instead of disguarding it? then when they argue and his partner tells him to go "F**k" himself, he could.

I made the assumption that if a guy (or gal) is homosexual then they would not have kids.
ie: it takes a man AND a women to have kids.

I'm no biology major, but I'm quite certain that is still true.

Using a surrogate mother and a fathers sperm is a hideous abuse of technology.
If you want a kid that badly, adopt one of the millions that would love a caring family.

Tail, I saw a movie called "Twins". The Gov. of California was able to have a baby. I don't think he's gay, but I mean a guy could...but why?

Now heredity and gay don't necessarily gel. That would mean if born an identical twin both would have to be gay, bi-, or straight if either one was according to the laws of science. That is basic science and any one case would disprove the hereditary theory as an anomaly or not.
RJ

Of course, if they are identical twins, there wouldn't be much difference in their genetic makeup. However, fraternal twins are that much different and it is possible for one child to be born with blonde hair and the other with dark hair. Just as it is possible for one to be gay and the other straight.

xrundog

armegeddon?

sodom and gomorrah has already been done and it didn't do any good.

spence28

because homosexuals cannot reproduce, so if it is genetic, it ends.

I think it would be OK if the Coors Light twins were both bisexual...

With identical twins, they do have the same genetic material. But their expression levels of every gene is different. If you know any identical twins, you know that they are sometimes very different in temper, manner, physical ability, and sereval other things. That comes from environmental, developmental, and bioloigical factors that make them different. Just because one identical twin is gay and the other is not, it doesn't disprove anything.

choner

A taxidermist mounts animals. A hermit goes off by himself.

Rickmaven,
You are right but I don't think that is what he meant.
I think he meant given the chance to be inherited, if it is genetic, it can't be. I don't understand.

Well homosexuals can reproduce Ric. They could be sperm doners or they could tough it out and do it the old fashion way.

What I don't understand is if being gay is genetic then you are born gay. If that is the case then how do you explain bi-sexual and people who are married and then wake up and decide they are now gay?

There are two ways of looking at this. First, homosexuality is an abnormality that affects about 5% of the population. Procreation has to be the main drive of the species so if you can't procreate, you aren't "normal". The how or why isn't fully understood at the moment.

Or, that homosexuality is a part of the "big" picture in that because of the lack of procreation homosexuals remove unwanted or unneeded variations from the gene pool.

Personally, I think it is triggered somehow and not purely genetic and definitely not learned.

This subject seems to get alot of thought. For homosexualism to be considered hereditary seems very odd to me. Carriers of known traits in a bloodline are hereditary traits but where did this anomaly start and at what point did it become everso popular to have this said gene. Obviously every human being alive was born and has a genetic mother and father. Therefore they had genetic grandparents and great grandparents and so on.

How has this abnormality been passed on in such dramatic proportions without notice? Would this not mean that every culture of human beings would have a significant number of this anomaly as well? It just seems like too many people want this to be the answer for their choices that they have personally made. Science "might" be able to answer for a very small percentage of the countless people that say they are gay and have chosen to be the way they are. It is still an abnormality in any society. If it weren't, we would not be having this discussion.
RJ

I posted it a few messages back, but I didn't know if the new posters on this topic read it, so here it is again.

Ann N Y Acad Sci. 2003 Jun;989:105-17

The etiology of anomalous sexual preferences in men.

Quinsey VL.
Psychology Department, Queen's University, Kingston, Ontario, K7L 3N6, Canada. quinseypsyc.queensu.ca

People discover rather than choose their sexual interests. The process of discovery typically begins before the onset of puberty and is associated with an increase in the secretion of sex hormones from the adrenal glands. However, the determinants of the direction of sexual interest, in the sense of preferences for the same or opposite sex, are earlier. These preferences, although not manifest until much later in development, appear to be caused by the neural organizational effects of intrauterine hormonal events. Variations in these hormonal events likely have several causes and two of these appear to have been identified for males. One cause is genetic and the other involves the sensitization of the maternal immune system to some aspect of the male fetus. It is presently unclear how these two causes relate to each other. The most important question for future research is whether preferences for particular-aged partners and parts of the male courtship sequence share causes similar to those of erotic gender orientation.