when the league of women voters provides the forum for the presidential debates, if we get one, it will be a surprise to me.

bush's team will demand all of the questions in advance. he will be secretly wired and receive all the answers from a hidden source (i wish i could remember the movie that i saw that had that scenerio) because he won't be able to bring his written crib sheet on stage, he would look too stupid doing that.

he will not allow the democratic candidate to ask him any questions.

he will smile and be charming, at least as charming as a lounge lizard trying to get laid.

hopefully larry flint will get someone to want the million he offered for some specific, proveable dirt on w. for some unknown reason w's awol status was never accepted by the voters dispite his dui or dui's and his admitted coke use, think w is some incarnation of the good fairy,

someone will point out that the unemployment figures do not include the people who have given up trying to get a job. unemployment is close to 10 %. if you doubt me, get off your high horse and do some research.

if w get's re-appointed, we will start another war someplace that has big oil reserves.

the stock market will fall or maybe crash.

the dollar will fall lower

gold prices will rise higher

at some point, ashcroft will advise bush to declare martial law.

Rick, aside from all the other nonsense, would you be so kind as to point me to the source of the comment that W. admitted coke use? I seem to recall he DID admit a prior drinking problem, which he cited as his reason for giving it up years ago, but I seem to recall some unfounded allegations which he refused to dignify with a reply. Funny how a million dollars couln't produce a SINGLE person who could substatiate these claims. But I'm waiting to hear when he came out and admitted it....... by the way, if he did, does HE get the million?

CWFoster

"he refused to dignify with a reply" he also refused to dignify his hidden dui with the same arrogance.

i will have to research way back, but i believe your quote will probably beat my two small pair.

i can't explain why no one came forward to claim the mil.

so you have 2 points so far.

however you did dismiss all my other predictions with an "other nonsense".

isn't it a bit early to dismiss predictions that will take many months to either develope or be shown to be wrong?

Even if GW wins again, I'm hoping you are way off Rick. Your predictions are just too grim to contemplate! Entirely possible! But very grim. I'm hoping the forces of Mordor can be defeated!

Rick, you were getting quite dire in some of your predictions. Martial law? I also predict the dollar will fall lower, and rise higher. Ditto for the price of gold which is is so volitile that only an idiot would invest heavily in it. (My money would be going into the stock market right now, if I had any to invest, after all, you are supposed top buy low) And the comment about Bush being appointed? PLEASE! when they recounted, they only found more votes for W. the dems were just upset that the efforts to buy votes from homeless people in Mi. with cigarettes and the efforts to take mentally impaired people here in Va. and hand them already filled out ballots to sign were unsuccessful. So give the poor old chad a rest already, because the country is aware that if someone cant follow simple instructions on a ballot they don't need to be choosing the leader of the most powerful nation on earth.

CWFoster

are you advocating a literacy test?

Rick

You are one of the most negative people on this forum, and God only hopes none of your drival comes to pass under any Administration!

Smile and light up a Bad Frog or a Lone Wolf and enjoy the fact that you live in Southern California.

Charlie

No prediction for a Democrat victory in November? Watch out for the black helicopters and have a great New Year.

I predict the vast right wing conspiracy will become vaster.

A literacy test is not necessary, after all, the busload of mentally challenged individuals who got taken to vote and were given pre-filled out balloyts in Va. didn't read them either. But if you can't read or don't read the instructions, ask for an explanation, and barring that don't whine about the fact YOU screwed up! Much less try to call into question the results of an election with the best voter turnout in anybodies memory! But then, that the way of the liberal, when unable to prove, obfuscate!

Charlie

the only thing i am negative about is your semi-president and his band of merry thieves.

i have already discussed my lack of interest in a god.

try to remember these things and our trade a few years ago.

i positivly do not smoke bad frogs or lone wolves any more. my cigars of choice are the bohemian revolution, the onyx mini belicoso, DR cohiba esplendido's @ $2.00 each, and monte #5's from ISOM, when i can get them, also @ $2.00 each.

i have saved some super quality cigers gifted to me and/or traded by usahog and magnifide. i savor those for special occassions and think about how i am on the opposite side of them politically and yet we maintain a respect and liking for each other.

CWFoster

obfuscate. who me? equivocate, yes. mislead, no.

did you read my post awile back that mentioned as a registered deomocrat, living in the same house and being registered as a democrat for 30 years, somehow my name was not on the registration and i was not allowed to vote in the last presidential election.

toby, registered as a republican, was still on the voter registration. can it be true? bet your tail.

gore, who i would not have voted for in the last election, did not lose the election in va, but in florida, where if you recall, the supreme court ovturned florida's supreme court in violation of the states rights clause, and a whole bunch of other dirty tricks, like a lot of republicans, nixon and watergate, reagen and the october surprise. i give you the url if you have any interest.

http://www.consortiumnews.com/archive/xfile1.html 

none the less, i am glad to see you and so many others posting after the new years. i don't know if we set another record for highway deaths, but i suspect all botl are more careful about their driving then those others who do not understand and appreciate a good cigar.

Actually ...

Gore did NOT win in Florida

And no recount taken in the more than 3 years since has shown him to have won there ...

Wait a minute,I remember something about you saying you couldn't vote in the recall election but I could swear you voted for Nadar in the last presidential election.Now I think one of us,is having a senior moment,it could very well be me...LOL

On relief to see all the BOTLs posting after the holiday, we can agree my Brother! I'm glad you too made it through another holiday season. I did suffer some damage to my ragtop, but thank God it was just from some kid trying to back his parents Lincoln Navigator into a parking space, and he (his mother) had insurance. I look forward to a year of spirited debate with someone who, although terribly misinformed 🙂, is capable of an intelligent and articulate argument! Let the games begin!

SteveS- Don't try to confuse the Democrats by arguing in the realm of facts! How COULD you!

I didn't even know that republicans new what the word fact meant.

jjohnson28

your sr moment. i wanted to vote for nadar but was unable to vote because i was not on the "list"

Rick

I was joking about the Frogs, and you have always been one of my favorite "foils" on the board! Happy New Year to you!

Charlie

Rick-

obfuscate-1-To make so confused or opaque as to be difficult to perceive or understand: “A great effort was made... to obscure or obfuscate the truth” (Robert Conquest).

2-To render indistinct or dim; darken: The fog obfuscated the shore.

I never meant to imply that I thought you were lying 🙂 I respect you too much for that, you are too much fun to discuss poltics with . Discussing with someone who tends to support thier arguments with untrue claims is pointless. I question some of the sources you use for supporting arguments, but not you. MrOptimistic on the other hand is beginning to sound like someone we all know and love.....