Ok, Mosta y'all don't really know me but I responded to a guy here 'bout month or so back lookin fer a few ISOMs to trade. I sent a few and a hand full of other stuff and I have not heard back from him and he aint responding to my e-mails.

The deal we struck was this:

I send 2 Monte #2s and a few others and he would send whatever he thought was fair.

Maybe I was a little too nieve seens how this was my first trade and all. BTY I have not traded with anyothers as of yet. Though I am in the Newbie b-day club. and I did ssend KingofSmithville a few on a new PIB (Pay it Backwards) deal.

Those really aint trades though I's just bein nice I guess.

I know that trading is riskey business and all so I aint lookin' fer no handouts 'er nuthin'. I'm just currious as to what can be done to get in contact with this fella?

Any help would be greatly appriciated.

[email protected]

Thanks.

Pat
i cant say what happened to the other guy, but i would be happy to do a trade with you. anything you looking for.

Nope, not really. I'm still holding on to that Maximmus that you gave me though. I appriciate it man.

patman

i think you should tell us all what his posting name is. it is extremly rare for someone to get screwed on a trade other then maybe you don't like some of the cigars you get. i have sent cigars to a bunch of people and can't remember anyone not completing their end of the bargin. sometimes the guys are a little slow, and sometimes i am a little slow.

i think you should mention his poster name for all our protections.

RICKAMAVEN@
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Well this is why I don't get into box passes or many Trades much.. I'd rather Bomb the **** outa somebody (especially new folks) and leave it at that... corse last time I did a trade with someone it took myself months to send off the package.. not that I didn't have it.. other things going on here on the homefront and finally getting out to the post office.. just from keeping an eye on the boards though.. there is not many if any I WOULDN'T hesitate to trade with... usually there is a better class of people here from when I first joined and CBid Forums and others can keep people on the up and up...

Sorry to hear about your trade.. and Welcome Aboard Pat!!!!

Hog

Hey Patman, we gotta hook up pretty soon anyway to get together on fudge! Why dont we make it sooner than later and I could share some of my recent good fortune with you. Rickamaven sent me some interesting, tasty gars, and I got some from Jazzman, that were quite frankly better than I would have expected either from the name (Ras Tafaris) or from his description (Yard gars) I been doing pretty good due to the generosity of some mighty fine BOTL! And if I can help my Bro get the bad taste out of his mouth, I'd like to!

Patman Ya gotta help us out. Maybe it was a misunderstanding maybe it was a trade gone bad. I have meet too many good one's here to know whoit could be with out your help. Rob

maybe there is a reasonable explanation for their tardiness, real life has the tendency to give someone CRS (can't remember sh*t) or maybe they went out of town and forgot - haven't checked their email or whatever. I'm not making excuses for anyone, but benefit of the doubt - innocent till proven guilty (yes too much court tv and crime and criminals message groups I know) maybe seeing their name in print in regards to a trade gone bad will jog their memory or make them see the errors of their ways, but by no means should you give up trading - just maybe if this has been a trade gone bad - be more selective - if you read the boards you can tell who is the good traders and like Clive said - he hasn't had a bad trade yet - so hope things go well for you in the future 🙂

I actually posted this in hopes oh him reading this and thinkin that would give his memory a nudge if ya know what I mean. I will wait for a few days before I mention his name to give him the benefit of the doubt.

I will say that he has not posted on the board since he received my cigars. I e-mailed him to see what the deal was and he seemed VERY pleased with the sticks I sent him. That was the last contact we have had. I have e-mailed him since then and he has not responded. Like I said by Wednesday or so I'll be putting his name and e-mail out there for all to see. Until then I can only hope that his memory or conscience wakes up...

I got stiffed from a guy name SA (STEVE ALLEN)I trustet and went out purchased some Pleiades from a store 20miles away and got those gars for half price send it to him the first time he e-mailed me and said I send the check and it must been loost, than he said I checked the check did not clear so He send me another one which I never received either and he does not answer his e-mail anymore. Loos $ 68.00 plus a hour drive.

I have seen traders on this site struck with illness, family emergencies and the like which puts them in a position unable to respond for a time. This may be one of those. Who knows?

sketcha --- I don't mean to sound cold or anything ... but that is not really an excuse.

Bottom line ... if you can't hold up our end of the deal ... then don't get involved in the first place. A sickness or illness in the family shouldn't stop anyone from sending a simple email explanation.

Reputation is EVERTHING, when it comes to trading cigars. After all, you are dealing with (for the most part) someone you don't really know. This can be a costly venture ... and ther ARE a lot of people who will come on these forums (not just CB's) to scam people out of their wares, because most people are very trusting ... and it's an easy target.

It happens more frequently than you may be aware of ... and these people (given ample time to make it right) should be ousted if they don't follow through!

WHO IS THE CULPRIT or the one who might have forgotten.

... forgotten Rick?

If you are prone to 'forgetting' something that you have going on with someone ...

... they shouldn't be trading in the first place.

I stand firm on this ... and is the main reason that I will not trade with anyone that I haven't traded with before, or heard 'good trader' comments about from others.

It's just not worth the 'let down' or frustration ... especially if you go into it full of 'good will' ...

Like usahog said, I don't mind 'bombing' someone ... because I don't expect anything in return and I get a great deal of personal satisfaction from it. That way I don't set myself up for disappointment.

If they return the gesture ... that shows me a great deal about the character of that individual. If they don't ... my opinion of them has not changed, because I didn't expect anything from them.

I totally agree with Slim on this... If anyone cares. 🙂

By the way Slim... Haven't had the pleasure of trading with you yet. Hope that changes in the near future 😉

I agree with Slim for two reasons. First, as new as I am to this hobby, I'm alot more likely to get something back that's new, and everybody I've met so far on here has pretty good taste. Second, I don't yet have that much but what I've been gifted, and I like to honor a gift by trying it if someone thought I'd like it, (I'm working on the trading stock though!) and I'd rather send what I have to send, and let them decide what they think it's worth. That way, I don't get a bum rep based on my inexperience.

CWF, good point of view, a trade is from the heart as is a bombing!

Charlie

what CWF said. bingo.

and slim said, "A sickness or illness in the family shouldn't stop anyone from sending a simple email explanation." he also pointed out that if you're prone to forgetting, you shouldn't be trading.

here's my personal take: i have major health issues. i AM prone to forgetting (thanks to the meds). but thankfully i have a NOTEBOOK and a PEN and can write down who sent me what, what trades i have agreed to and any other info that is needed. it's not too much effort to just WRITE IT DOWN.

secondly, while i may have to jot down reminders, i do have a very, very strong memory in a way -- i never, ever, ever forget a good deed done to me (or a slight, for that matter, though i try to let go of those rather than hold on to negativity).

i might not be able to turn right around and bomb someone back who has gifted me with cigars, but i will "get even" as soon as i can. and in the meantime, i will give all the props i can give to the guys who have shown such generosity and kindness.

again, that's not too much effort, no matter how i'm feeling physically. and even if i don't have a dime to use for postage, it doesn't cost a penny to jump on here and say a good word about a brother (or sister) so everyone knows "hey, this is a great B/SOTL."

then when i'm able to do more, i can do more -- send him some sticks, a cd, whatever.

yes, "$*it happens," but i find that there is not much of an excuse for not at least staying in communication.
i've still not been able to write out all the emails i want, but i can post a dang message here saying "this is what's going on guys; i've not forgotten."