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22 years ago
I just checked to see if this is true. You can check for yourself on the
http://aceobserver.bravejournal.com/ 

Don't forget: John Kerry is strong on defense

He voted to kill the Bradley Fighting Vehicle
He voted to kill the M-1 Abrams Tank
He voted to kill every Aircraft carrier laid down from 1988
He voted to kill the Ages anti aircraft system
He voted to Kill the F-15 strike eagle
He voted to Kill the Block 60 F-16
He voted to Kill the P-3 Orion upgrade
He voted to Kill the B-1
He voted to Kill the B-2
He voted to Kill the Patriot anti Missile system
He voted to Kill the FA-18
He voted to Kill the B-2
He voted to Kill the F117

In short, he voted to kill every military appropriation for the development
and deployment of every weapons systems since 1988 to include the Battle armor
for our troops. With Kerry as president our Army will be made up of naked men
running around with sticks and clubs. He also voted to kill all anti terrorism
activities of every agency of the U.S. Government and to cut the funding of the FBI by 60%, to cut the funding for the CIA by 80%, and cut
the funding for the NSA by 80%. But then he voted to increase OUR funding for
U.N operations by 800%!!!

Is THIS a President YOU want? I HOPE Not!
HockeyDad
22 years ago
I think this is an unfair characterization of Senator Kerry's voting record. Had the situation been right, I think he also would have voted in favor of all these military systems.
MACS
22 years ago
Aegis, people... Aegis. I am on an Aegis Guided Missile Cruiser and I, for one, am VERY glad that we developed this technology. Makes me feel a lot safer when we are in the Persian Gulf.

Poor bad guys... he he he... dem don't know who dem dealin' wif, do dem?
DrMaddVibe
22 years ago
dbguru
22 years ago
Newsmax and WorldNetDaily have the biggest reputation as conservative propaganda machines that go out of their way to distort the truth in support of a most obvious political agenda. Please read follow these links at your own risk. These are extremely biased sources of information. Although taken seriously by extreme neo-conservatives and more radical traditional conservatives who prefer to digest only information that supports their views and exclude most mainstream news sources, those with moderate views trying to obtain balanced perspectives on news events should be looking elsewhere or at the very minimum reviewing these sites with a high degree of skepticism. By comparison to these two websites, NewsMax and WorldNetDaily, Fox News is truly fair and balanced.
DrMaddVibe
22 years ago
DB...sorry to say it...but you're a apathetic source for entertainment or information than CBS!
HockeyDad
22 years ago
Dbguru,

Are you saying Senator Kerry actually voted in favor of all these military systems?

I knew he would, my faith is restored!
Charlie
22 years ago
If you think Kerry voted for any of these programs, you believe in the tooth fairy!


Charlie
MACS
22 years ago
Fox News... they report, I decide. Unlike CNN the Clinton News Network and any other friggin' source of media, be it newspaper or television.

I was born and raised in Rhode Island. I left when I was 17 and never went back. My dad tells me we were surrounded by liberals and that's why we left. He went to Georgia and I joined the Navy.
Charlie
22 years ago
The Aegis is one of the most advanced systems in the world and I damn glad we have it operational! So, if the illustrious Senator only voted against 70% of those systems above he is a bigger fool than I think he is and he should be held accountable for his lackluster Senatorial career of soaking US dollars for his silk lined pockets!

Charlie
dbguru
22 years ago
Did I make a comment on your assertions.... No, just your sources.....

I reserve judgement on your assertions and consider the context upon which these decisions were made by John Kerry (which none of you right wing neo-cons ever ever do!!!). You don't have the right to draw my conclusions, Thats my privelege, buddy!! If you wish to drink the Kool-aid and believe the most slanted propganda I've ever seen from NewsMax and WorldNetDaily, go ahead and fill your head with their slime and slander... I can't stop you I can only warn you...
MACS
22 years ago
The DB must mean democratic buttnugget.

Sorry db... couldn't resist. I respect your right to have an opinion different than mine. Even though it's wrong. hehehe

*They're just jokes people, they can't hurt you*
dbguru
22 years ago
MACs...

Heres the deal... To be informed, I believe you need to be open to a wide a variety of news sources as you can possibly absorb...

If you listen to Fox and not CNN, then your opinion is Fox's opinion. (and thus I'd rather get that from Fox) If you listen to both then I would tend to respect your opinion more as your own...

That's the major concern I have with those of you only reading and getting news and opinion from only right wing sources. You are being programmed!! You've lost your own opinions!! You simply post links to these propaganda machines. I don't need you to spout these opinions. You not as good as Rush, Billy O., Sean, and the rest of the genre I know those already. And I do listen to those guys to understand what their perpectives are.

My opinion is a DBGuru exclusive.. You may like it, you may not. But there it is and it's based on the broadest set of news sources I have time to consume.
Hey I watch Fox everyday, Along with CNN, MSNBC, NBC, NPR and BBC. Occasionally the NY Times, LA Times, my own local Seattle Times, the Washington Post and the Wall Street Journal. So there is the value... Not just a rewrite of a right wing propganda machine but a perspective that tries to cut through the half truths and distortions...

That's what fair and balanced is really all about.....

DB
MACS
22 years ago
I can agree with that db. It is not ALL the time that I agree with what I hear on Fox. Some days I love Bill O'reilly and other days I think he is a pompous A$$. Some days, though they are few and far between, I may agree with what I hear on the Clinton News Network. I am not stupid and I am certainly not one who can be "led" to believe anything. I have my own mind. It just so happens that most of the time I agree with the republican view on issues. Notice I said MOST.
HockeyDad
22 years ago
This post is threadjacked.

Did Senator Kerry vote FOR or AGAINST the originally mentioned weapons systems?

Charlie
22 years ago
Senator John Kerry voted against the weapons systems noted above and other less important military matters, but now, he will feign some reason or another to side step the vote record!

dbguru, I watch the same sources you watch and I am not a right wing kool aid drinker or whatever you referred to; however, I believe that most liberals are a little bit blind when it comes to facts! You believe that Kerry is the big savior of business, manufacturing and healthcare but where are his positions on those issues, just a lot of talk! He talks the talk a lot, but doesn't seem to walk the walk!

Charlie
dbguru
22 years ago
Charlie .. I respect your opinion on that.
None of us can predict how Kerry will be for business growth and jobs. I'm feeling some of his ideas make a lot of sense. You may think differently.

But I've seen 4 years of GW and I know that the economic theory GW follows is pretty close to the same one his dad followed and on two occassions it lead to a screwed up economy. And I'm not buying into 4 more years of this crap.
CWFoster
22 years ago
DB- You don't have the right to draw my conclusions, Thats my privelege, buddy!!

ALRIGHT BUD! Whats good for the goose is good for the gander! FIRST! Whats with the neocon name calling? I understand what it means and implys. I want to know why you have the unmitigated GALL to question my conservative values because I support Bush? I DON'T think he's the best there ever was, but I don't see anyone better out there certainly not Hanoi John! SECOND, I'm sick and tired of any sources cited by a conservative as being "RIGT-WING PROPAGANDA" ALL the major broadcast outlets were soft on Clintons scandals, yet those are to be viewed as "OBJECTIVE" can we at least agree that anyone who goes to the trouble and expense of building an organization for the collection and disseminization of information probably has their own agenda, and instead of you calling our sources propaganda, and us calling your sources propaganda, we look at the content, and judge for ourselves? Kerrys voting record is a matter of public record, just the non-"Right wing propagandists" won't bother to compile and release this info because they are to busy puffing Kerry!
usahog
22 years ago
DB this only means one thing!!!!!








































































My Vote..... Cancels your Vote Out!!!! ;0)~~~~

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