RICKAMAVEN
Tuesday, March 8, 2005 2:57:00 AM
wierd headline.

tomorrow i am having my direct tv removed and installing voom tv. my primary interest is hd.

any suggestions?

stogiepa
Tuesday, March 8, 2005 3:47:00 AM
NO!
stogiepa
Tuesday, March 8, 2005 3:49:00 AM
Maybe "andytv" will have something to say.............

After all ^.........................................

ryantp
Tuesday, March 8, 2005 4:14:00 AM
my brother used to work for voom. i thought they went under.
andytv
Tuesday, March 8, 2005 4:21:00 AM
Don't know what "VOOM" is, and I don't sell, repair, or really know much at all about televisions.

Threadjack On

My last name is a little long and difficult for people to pronounce and spell (I don't know why, its quite easy for me). It has been shortened, in the past to "TV" which are the prominent consonant sounds.

Threadjack Off

I know that DirectTV is one of the easiest to "steal" programming for, so many unscrupulous folks subscribe for that reason. If you are honest, as I am, w.r.t. your TV programming then that is not a factor.

VOOM must not be offered out here is western PA yet.

Hoss
Tuesday, March 8, 2005 4:41:00 AM
Suggestions?

What would you suggest we suggest? You're gettting an upgrade. You might as well buy the best package they have. Have you researched this? Do you actually know what this is gonna cost? Here's a link that might help. This isn't cheap. HD is great TV. Have fun and enjoy it.

http://www.satelliteguys.us/archive/index.php/t-6721.html 

herfsnipe
Tuesday, March 8, 2005 4:48:00 AM
I thought VOOM was in serious financial trouble. I read somewhere that Sears was still going to sell it to customers until someone told them to stop. What did they lose last year, like $600 million? I think there was a scam in there somewhere that was being investigated. I would make sure this company isn't going to fold like your wallet before I sunk a ton of money in something that might dissapear.
Hoss
Tuesday, March 8, 2005 4:53:00 AM
Hey Herf, This the article you mean?

NEW YORK, March 7 (Reuters) - Cablevision Systems Corp. (CVC.N: Quote, Profile, Research) Chairman Charles Dolan on Monday presented details of an ambitious plan to purchase the remaining assets of a satellite venture that lost $661.4 million last year.

A board meeting of the company in Florida adjourned at 3 p.m. (2000 GMT). A company spokeswoman declined to comment and said there would be no official statement on Monday.

Wall Street analysts and media industry observers said last week it was unclear how Dolan plans to pay for Cablevision's Voom assets, which include 21 high-definition programming channels, a lease on a satellite and the 46,000 subscribers he says Voom has.

Cablevision on March 3 extended a deadline to shut down the Voom service to give the chairman "further opportunity" to present a credible plan to the board.

A spokeswoman for Sears, Roebuck and Co. (S.N: Quote, Profile, Research) , the largest retailer of the service, said late on Monday the company plans to continue selling the Voom service at its retail locations. "The policy is Sears will continue selling Voom," spokeswoman Lauren Jiles-Johnson said.

The cost of running the Voom service over the next two years has been estimated at more than $1 billion by Richard Greenfield at Fulcrum Global Partners.

Anticipating Dolan's plans, which he presented to the board on Monday, is difficult because his actions thus far have diverged from conventional business logic, Sanford C. Bernstein analyst Craig Moffett said.

But Dolan, who launched the premium cable channel HBO in the early 1970s and who made cable television a household fixture in New York over more than three decades, has in the past demonstrated a knack for spotting value.

The 78-year-old chairman could be betting the future of the cable and sports company that he founded in 1973 and that now holds a richly valued New York area subscriber base of 3 million, analysts said.

This time, his repeated attempts to keep Voom alive have drawn the attention of regulators, who launched an informal inquiry into stock trades during the satellite venture's unwinding.

Dolan's attempts to buy the remaining Voom assets have also pitted him against his son James, who is Cablevision's chief executive, and other board members who believe the company should further distance itself from a business traditionally viewed as a competitive threat to its core cable television service.

That struggle has led some Wall Street analysts to speculate Charles Dolan may sell off part or all of Cablevision to finance Voom.

A stern letter to Charles Dolan from board member Victor Oristano, representing the company's independent and Class A shareholders, suggested his plans could jeopardize an earlier agreement to sell off Voom's one satellite for an estimated $200 million to EchoStar Communications Corp. (DISH.O: Quote, Profile, Research) .

UBS analyst Aryeh Bourkoff said a reversal of that deal would mean Cablevision loses the $200 million of expected proceeds from the sale and would have to continue to try to run the money-losing business.

"A possible reversal could reintroduce a value-destructive asset to the company, compounded with removal of $200 million of anticipated proceeds," he said.

The Oristano letter, filed with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission last week, briefly mentions discussions that Charles Dolan intended to have with rival EchoStar.

The talks would center on combining the satellite and licenses that have been pledged to EchoStar with the rest of the satellite business, which is what Dolan intends to buy.

With control of super-voting class B shares, Charles Dolan last week removed three board members who had opposed him. He replaced them with a slate of media industry heavyweights including Liberty Media Corp. (L.N: Quote, Profile, Research) Chairman John Malone and former Viacom Inc. (VIAb.N: Quote, Profile, Research) President Frank Biondi Jr.

Charles Dolan has about 37 percent direct ownership of a family trust that controls 75 percent of Cablevision's vote.

He also plans to request an additional board seat for Brian Sweeney, senior vice president of e-media at Cablevision, who is also his son-in-law.

Shares of Cablevision rose 80 cents, or 2.8 percent, to $29.29 on the New York Stock Exchange on Monday.

Not looking good for VOOM.

SirWolfgang
Tuesday, March 8, 2005 4:53:00 AM
herfsnipe
Tuesday, March 8, 2005 5:23:00 AM
It looks like Cablevision will be protected from losses, that's good for Cablevision. Voom has a buyer, but NO satellite. And, no plans for funding. But, they're still adding subscribers. Personally, I would stay away from this uncertain situation. But, it's not my call. If they stay alive, that's great. If they go under, who's left holding all that useless equipment? Who paid the installation and programming fees? The customer. Hey, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe they'll pull out of debt and Charles Dolan won't have to sell his stake in Cablevision which he has shrewdly protected just to pay creditiors the near $700 million he owes.
ryantp
Tuesday, March 8, 2005 5:29:00 AM
it was a horrible idea from the beginning. their digital channels were "original" channels, available only to voom subscribers. they sucked. that's the only thing that differentiated it from any other service.
Steve*R
Tuesday, March 8, 2005 5:54:00 AM
Rick wrote: "tomorrow i am having my direct tv removed and installing voom tv. my primary interest is hd.any suggestions?"

Call Voom and cancel. Subscribing to Voom is an invitation to problems.

ryantp
Tuesday, March 8, 2005 6:00:00 AM
Yeah, don't get it. You'll either be out of service soon or they'll be bought out by another service, thus you'll have to go through the hassel of switching equipment.
Marke@CigarBid
Tuesday, March 8, 2005 7:12:00 AM
Rick,

I've had DirecTV for the past 9 months and am very happy with it. I don't have an HD receiver, so I don't know much about what DirecTV offers in that arena. I have a friend who canceled Comcast's HD service and got DTV and has been very happy.

I like the little things that DTV offers, like the NFL Network. When hockey comes back, I'll get the Center Ice package. These are things that VOOM doesn't offer.

About 15 years ago, a company in Florida ( I think it was Cablevision ) tried to offer a service that required you to use an antenna to pick up cable service. People jumped at it b/c it was much cheaper than standard cable. I think it lasted about 2 years. Everyone had to switch back over to cable and start over with new equipment.

Just my 2cents.

Marke

RICKAMAVEN
Tuesday, March 8, 2005 7:48:00 AM
too late.

initial install in both rooms, zip. 6 month subscrioption incl hbo, max, starz, "court tv" and a bunch of sport things. 6 month commitment. (i hate that word, i keep looking for the men in white coats.) first three months $50.00. next three months $100. direct tv with the same channels is $100.00 and everytime it rains the hd craps out. wierd because the rain only extends a few thousand feet up and after that there shouldn't be anything to interfere.

i will make periodic repots.

thanks for the suggestions.

RICKAMAVEN
Tuesday, March 8, 2005 7:56:00 AM
Hoss

stock info. i only gamble on penny stocks. i don't los, i don't win. i just play them like a nickle slot machine in vegas. bought wftv at average of .014. sold half at .022, it went to .o4 that day and now it has dropped to .o1 or less so i bought some more.

have you ever heard of apuuy, crce, gegp, or siri? neither have i, but they are holding their own.

just ordered something called clyw @ $1.00.

the only advice i took was ecni that cost me a few tho. and is worth about a nickle now. no more advice from them that knows, because them don't know.

is it thread jacking or masterbating if i jack my own thread?

BuckyB93
Tuesday, March 8, 2005 8:19:00 AM
Loss of signal due to heavy rain (heavy cloud cover, heavy snowfall…) is intrinsic of satellite communications and will happen no matter what service you choose. It's commonly referred to as "rain fade” and is a result of the heavy moisture in the air absorbing the signal from the satellite as its being transmitted to your dish.

I’ve had DirecTV for about 3 yrs now and have been happy with the service. Once or twice a year, it does go out during heavy storms but that only lasts 10-15 min. If I can’t live without TV for 10-15 min a couple times a year, I have more serious problems to deal with.

I’ve never heard of ZOOM so I can’t comment on their service. As long as your happy with it, who am I so say anything.

MACS
Tuesday, March 8, 2005 10:26:00 AM
I've been seriously contemplating DirecTV because of the NFL Sunday Ticket.

But I have a cable modem for the puter and a package deal.

If I left cable for satellite i'd have to switch back to DSL...

Something to think about since Training camp is only 5 months away...

sketcha
Tuesday, March 8, 2005 10:38:00 AM
It's a little late for suggestions, isn't it Rick?

But I'll throw in anyway.

If you live in an area that has standard cable HD, I'd go with that. No commitments, easy and no boxes to buy. You can lease an HD receiver for less than 10 bucks giving you peace of mind when new technology becomes available (you won't be stuck with a $500, out of date box.) HD service is probably even less than that. You got all your locals, too.

jackconrad
Tuesday, March 8, 2005 12:32:00 PM
Rick ,$350 no big deal if it doesn't work out. I have had Dish network HD for over a year and love it although they need too add some more channels as they have been doing. The picture is great with very few problems of reception lost,( a whole lot less than cable), and the packages and prices are pretty decent. I watch alot of offbeat channels like Free speech tv and Link just to know what the other side thinks And i love the reruns of Jimmy Sturr and Big Joe Polka and Porter Waggoner on RFDTV. So if Voom doesn' work out i suggest you try Dish Network.