RICKAMAVEN
Tuesday, April 12, 2005 12:40:00 PM
http://www.newsforreal.com/ 

name calling is not a rebutal, it is an infantile way of avoiding serious discusion.

the question is, is he correct, partially correct, or wrong totally or in part.

please explain why, either way.

adults only.

children go to the oink of the day.

drnos
Tuesday, April 12, 2005 1:15:00 PM
Partially, minimally, infinitesimally, correct.

"Neocon" used to mean a "New" Conservative; e.g. a previous liberal who has moved right and becomes especially rabid about conservatism. Paul Wolfowitz was the archtypical neocon. But I see that "Neocon" has lost that meaning and is now just a expletive meant to discredit conservative views. Try to find me one instance of the term's usage in that piece that retains the original meaning.

The USA Today quote was simply bizarre: the gist of the quote is that local property taxes have gone rapidly upward. The reason given in USA Today is because property values have gone up, local tax collections have gone up. Yet the author of this dubious op-ed uses the quote to support the proposition that the "neocons" have engineered a big swing from local power to centralized, federal power. HUH? This is so disconnected that vertigo threatens my perspective.

It seems to me that rising property tax values are NOT a nefarious federal plot. It seems to me that rising local taxes works AGAINST any imagined federal plan to impoverish state and local govts.

With that out of my system, let me say that I find both parties seem to advance the federal powers at the expense of local control. It seems insidious and inevitable.

"The Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work and then they get elected and prove it." P. J. O'Rourke

MACS
Tuesday, April 12, 2005 1:36:00 PM
I confess I only read a portion of that article. But after reading a couple of paragraphs it was obvious to me the guy hates GWB and this is his venue to 'Bush bash'.
RDC
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Tuesday, April 12, 2005 1:52:00 PM
More Bush bashing.

Remember Clinton bashing?

Remember Clinton bashing?

Remember Bush Bashing?

Remember Reagan Bashing?

Remember Reagan Bashing?

Remember Carter Bashing?

Remember Ford Bashing?

Remember Nixon Bashing?

Remember Nixon Bashing?

Yawn...so what. Everyone has their detractors.

Now, where are the oinkers? 🙂

andytv
Tuesday, April 12, 2005 2:05:00 PM
Raising taxes is not the only way to provide continued support to state funded programs in the absence of federal support.

How 'bout government reform at the state level??

The government in MY state is definitely broken, and it ain't gonna be fixed as long as the money is coming in.

lukin
Tuesday, April 12, 2005 2:43:00 PM
The author has a point about power being shifted from the states to the federal government, but this is only to combat the series of democracy violations being perpetrated by liberal judges, the ACLU, and state governments and local governments. Consider that in California, we voted to deny any state funding for illegal immigrants...that was overturned by state judges. We voted in Arnold in order to repeal state issued drivers liscences for illegal aliens, that is currently being fought. We voted to ban gay marriages in California, that was outright ignored by local politicians (gavin newsome) and is currently being challenged in state courts (where it could very conceivably be overturned). Our rights as citizens are being stripped away by a few zealous lawyers and judges who would rather MAKE law than INTERPRET law.

I agree that states should have more rights, but not at the expense of violating the will of its citizenry.

usahog
Tuesday, April 12, 2005 2:53:00 PM
DISPUTED...

One question comes to mind over this man's Blog..

Why did We American's allow Washington to become so powerful? it is not the left nor the Right it is both who have for decades been eroding away our Constitutional Rights as free Americans.. So Why??

We The People.. For the People!!!!

Hog

JonR
Tuesday, April 12, 2005 3:40:00 PM
What a freakin joke, the maven wants us not to debate him on a subject but to debate a freakin website. when you guys get done debating mavens website (tsh tsh) let me know and I'll punch up a dozen more websites that you can waste your time debating.

Me and maven LOAO.

JonR

Charlie
Tuesday, April 12, 2005 3:42:00 PM
All anti GWB bullsh-t!

Post something meaningful!

Charlie

callawaybob
Tuesday, April 12, 2005 3:46:00 PM
What Lukin said. I believe the voice of the individual citizen is being silenced by those who are not a true representative of the people that put them in office. Funny how politicians change thier views depending on the current wind direction...Just do the right thing!!!!!!Damnit. I'm yelling at them, feels good:-)

Another Brother

Bob

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Tuesday, April 12, 2005 4:57:00 PM
so far the only name calling I see is in this Pizzo website

commie, neocon, Bu****es, right-wingers, knuckle-dragging citizens, Robber Barons

And I finally agree with rick it is infantile

RICKAMAVEN
Tuesday, April 12, 2005 8:31:00 PM
Charlie

you must have expected an ode to bush like

How do I love thee? Let me count the ways.

I love thee to the depth and breadth and height

My soul can reach, when feeling out of sight

For the ends of being and ideal grace.

I love thee to the level of every day's

Most quiet need, by sun and candle-light.

I love thee freely, as men strive for right.

I love thee purely, as they turn from praise.

I love thee with the passion put to use

In my old griefs, and with my childhood's faith.

I love thee with a love I seemed to lose

With my lost saints. I love thee with the breath,

Smiles, tears, of all my life; and, if God choose,

I shall but love thee better after death.

chalie, don't hold your breath.

RICKAMAVEN
Tuesday, April 12, 2005 8:41:00 PM
JonR

i'm sorry i didn't see yor hand raised but you raise it so often it blurs my eyes.

you are my first real fan. you must have a big scrap book because even the most ardent people that disagree with most things i post, could not possibly remember things i said 3 or 4 years ago.

if you promise to eat all your veggies and wash real good and say your prayers, i will send you an autographed picture of me in my foil hat.

TrannyMk
Tuesday, April 12, 2005 9:04:00 PM
Rick... how's the air up there on that pedistal you spew from... change your diaper & powder your ass... you need it...

Why is it that states want the federal gov to mind there own business until something tragic happens, then the feds arent in there doing enough?

You cant have it both ways...

BikerBob1961
Tuesday, April 12, 2005 9:04:00 PM
I can't dispute this,it is over my head. I would like to know what would happen if the states had more power, would we still be one nation or 50 small state nations? Would it be better to have one law or rule or have each state make thier on laws or rules? If you want to you can even take this to the extreme and each state has the power over itself and if you want to travel from one state to another you need a pass. I know this is far fetched but the question is how much power goes the states and how much goes to the goverment for all the states? If I remember history(I am not good at this)the USSR failed not because of the idea but because it was corupted at the core? If this is not true let me know. I hope this dose not sound stupid but an honest thought. I think if I knew what the goverment did (in front of my face)this would be a scary place to live. One thing I do believe is - that its not the goverment that is taking from us but part of us ,the loud minority, that is giving to the goverment. Like I said this is beyond me but its as best as I can understand.
RICKAMAVEN
Tuesday, April 12, 2005 9:25:00 PM
TrannyMk

what is spew?

adroomi
Tuesday, April 12, 2005 9:27:00 PM
BikerBob,

I'll ride with you......You seem like a cool cat.

TrannyMk
Tuesday, April 12, 2005 9:32:00 PM
Wow, 'cool cat' that's the ticket... being a cool cat... is COOL...
adroomi
Tuesday, April 12, 2005 9:35:00 PM
Tranny,

Is that derogatory? I'm not sure if I'm following you here.....

JonR
Tuesday, April 12, 2005 9:38:00 PM
JonR

i'm sorry i didn't see yor hand raised but you raise it so often it blurs my eyes.

"Superman is snail-like compared to me."

you are my first real fan. you must have a big scrap book because even the most ardent people that disagree with most things i post, could not possibly remember things i said 3 or 4 years ago.

"My memory is rock solid I forget nothing and er hmmm what were we talking oh yeah you have to cut the steak at least two inches thick."

if you promise to eat all your veggies and wash real good and say your prayers, i will send you an autographed picture of me in my foil hat.

"Please remember to wear your depends, the last picture you sent, well the Post Office tried to have me arrested for receiving grandpop porn."

JonR