Over the past couple days i've been watching old fights from when Tyson was in his prime and from when Ali was in his prime.

After watching these fights, there is absolutely NO doubt in my mind that Tyson would have killed Ali.

Killed him.

Not looking for debate, really. Just making a statement based on watching them both fight in their prime.

I don't know about that, but....

...wanna box, MAC?

No. I suck at it. Tried my hand at it one time on deployment and got my ass whooped.

I can hit like a truck and I can take a pounding (as I showed in my only bout) but my defense is absolutely horrible and I had a difficult time getting any good punches in.

I'd prefer to wrestle my opponent to the ground and break body parts.

^

Sounds like a date!

People said foreman would kill him too.

great debate nonetheless

don't know boxing much, but i think tyson was not tested enough back when he was killing folks to be able to handle the art of ali's style.

foreman has been cited. i think a brilliant strategy vs. tyson would have made ali victorious.

but i really like tyson back before all the jail and downfall. agree with the critics who say he is the biggest underachieving disappointment in sports history. he should have been king for a long long time.

but alas

agree with the critics who say he is the biggest underachieving disappointment in sports history

oooh good call, although as a baseball and A's fan, I usually cite Jose Canseco. I would also throw up the bulk of Heisman award winners over the last twenty years.

lukin

good additions to the "biggest chump" list

Okay... if this is going to turn into a biggest chump list, I got the winner, hands down.

Ryan Leaf.

haha...crying leaf...

i hate to agree with MACS as much as i hate to compare two things that can never be measured aginst each other. but i don't think that ali (whom i respect) in his prime had the power to beat tyson in his prime.

they were both on a talk show once, (i think it was arsenio) and were asked the same question. both humbly said the other would win-no contes. i think that showed class and respect on both sides...

Fact is... Tyson woulda killed Ali.

Yep. I said he woulda KILLED him.

He would've.

Nope

>Fact is... Tyson woulda killed Ali.

Only if he used his teeth...

I seriously doubt he could have landed a solid punch on Ali in his prime.

If they had fought each other in their prime,it would have been a hellofa fight. IMO,who would have won? I'm guessing it would depend on if Tyson could land a power punch and if Ali could keep him at bay with his jabs and speed. X

It would have been a classic battle: Unstoppable brawn against incredible speed, reflexes, and precision. Even though they both had their share of the "obnoxious quotient," I'd like to think Ali would have won--especially now.

I saw many of Ali's fights live. The reason he was so good is he was rock solid. He worked out harder than anyone else. You could pound him in the gut all you wanted but you couldn't hurt him.Matter of fact you fist and arms took the hurting. Because of this he could wear almost anyone down. Even though he lost a decision to Ken Norton it was revealed his jaw was broken in the 1st round,yet he finished the rest of the fight competitivley. Had that been Tyson he would not have lasted. Ali was actually in his prime in the sixties and even though he was dominant in the seventies he was past his prime and in the early stages of Parkinsons Disease. Tysons prime barely lasted 3 years and he did not have nearly the quality of opponents that Ali Fought. I'm sorry but i don't think Tyson could've lasted ten rounds with Ali in his prime.

IMO, I think that Ali would have won. As Jack eloquently stated, he was the quickest and could take a punch. Btw, he was also very smart, could adapt, & punched hard as well.

After his trainer/mentor Cus D'Amato died, the myth of Mike Tyson was exposed when the giant potato head (Buster Douglas) knocked him out with an aggressive arsenal of punches. Up until that time, everyone had either fought cautiously (ran) or stood up straight against Tyson. Subsequently, Evander Holyfield who is really a pumped-up powerful Cruiserweight with a good defense, drove the point home when he came after Douglas with a relentless barrage of punches from all angles and beat him savagely twice. He must have been enraged by all of the pending paternity suits- Tyson just happened to be there.

In fact, I think that there were a slew of other AGGRESSIVE heavyweights that would have beaten him or at least given him a run for his money- Joe Louis, Marciano, Jersey Joe Walcott, Joe Frazier, Joe Foreman I, Riddick Bowe, and don't forget how Lenox Lewis embarrassed him.

Ooooops, almost forgot MACS the punching machine. (c;

Btw, the caveat to the aforementioned is that boxing is a corrupt sport reliant on human judges and a referee who can be swayed...

^ George not Joe Foreman I (don't forget the roman numeral I)!

I wasn't around to see Ali in his prime, but having seen Tyson in his prime, hard to think of anyone beating him then. A shame that he's now considered a joke. Have to admit though that Ali was the best when being the best meant something.

I remember him as C.Clay--we went a few in the 5th street gym when he was 15 years old---that was before he hit the golden gloves---he was a treat then also---