Hey Rick, handsome as well! You've got it all!

Further discussion on Bush is not going to change your opinion of him, to be truthful, I'm not a big fan anyway. But how can you discount a debate using your same rhetoric and subplanting Clinton for GWB? Both have less than steller backgrounds, although I would have to give GWB high marks for his record as a Texas Gov. Clinton's record was shakey at best in the same roll.

As far as Whitewater goes, let's use Iran-Contra instead of Whitewater. More taxpayer money went into investigating Iran-Contra than whitewater with almost nothing found. Both were used as political spears by the respective parties. How can you deplore one situation without recognizing the other. Only a biased person would argue that case. Rick, you are a biased person, whether you want to admit it or not.

Hillary was up to her neck in Whitewater and she and Bill were enriched as a result of what she did ... the McDougalds went to prison and the Clintons should rightfully have been their cellmates ... let's don't pretend that "nothing was found" ...

The plain unvarnished truth is, that had any of us done a fraction of what the Clintons have done, we'd be in prison ... and rightfully, they SHOULD be.

maybe that is a lead into the "honor" thread