Papachristou
15 years ago
on the poll issue, its a tough call either way. the wording on them is so slanted its unreal. MSNBC did a poll that asked :

are you against STRIPPING public unions of their hard earned collective bargaining rights?

come on, thats a tad bit weighted
elk hunter
15 years ago

Heh. The liberals really don't organize that well. I know some Democratic groups may, maybe a union or two. But overall we are in no way as organized as conservative groups. They may try, liberals just don't listen all that well.

FuzzNJ wrote:




LOL!!! Yeah, I guess NOW, SEIU, AFLCIO, and the like have NOTHING to do with the Libs...
DrMaddVibe
15 years ago

Ding ding ding ding........only difference is the republicans were the first to see this threat and decided it was better to align themselves with the Tea Party. Thus pissing off a lot of folks who then simply referred to the Tea Party movement as a Republican thing........

TMCTLT wrote:




Gotta add that there are waaaay more fiscally conservative people in the Republican party than the Democrat. That's the main reason I see for the media's wide brush strokes.

The same for all those made up racist attempts.

It's not there. If anything it's the other way around.

SEIU thugs attacking a black man for selling Tea Party trinkets? Hello?

More of that nose ring pulling the "Leaders" do and the blind snap in line. Drink the kool-aid.

Remember when Fuzz said he was never going to post in the Politcal threads? A real man of his word.
tailgater
15 years ago

Heh. The liberals really don't organize that well. I know some Democratic groups may, maybe a union or two. But overall we are in no way as organized as conservative groups. They may try, liberals just don't listen all that well.

FuzzNJ wrote:




Maybe a union or two??

Holy cow batman, you win for the understatement of the friggin year award.

For support of my statement, please see: Wisconsin; State of.
Circa 2011
Anynews.com

And just so you know that we know: yes. This is only the tip of that iceburg known as union-ville.

That florida sunshine blinding you, fuzz?
Or did you think you could simply slip that whopper right past us?

You're funny.



FuzzNJ
15 years ago

ill disagree with you there. Race being an issue for blacks, hispanics etc is a thing of the past IMO (its not an issue for people like me but it is an issue for blacks). it is reverse racial issues that are growing i believe. for instance when customers come into my office, lets say i have a white guy in a suit paying on an AMX black card, i dont check his insurance, not because he is white but rather i can see that he is driving a new car which usually has insurance since it is financed/worth more, plus his credit line is 3x my annual salary probably. then i have a black customer come in, they drive up in a hoopty, they are paying with cash (money order cause we dont take cash) and my black assistant checks her insurance (low and behold she doesnt have any) she immediately claims racial discrimination!?!?!?!? race was the farthest thing from ANYONES mine except hers.

i have seen whites or men not get promotions even though they were the higher ranking candidate because just 5 minutes before their interview, we received an anyonomous racial ethics point complaint that we dont promote blacks. now who do you think called in that complaint? 🤔 my boss could give two shlts less about race, he wants the best candidate like anyone else.

as a white male, am getting effing tired of being called a racist everytime i deal with someone who doesnt qualify to get a rental car or wants a free upgrade. its exhausting, we make business decisions not racial decisions. Green is green and thats how i pay my bills.

Papachristou wrote:



I know a lot of people, especially white people, like to think racism is a thing of the past, it isn't. Sure there really aren't anymore lynchings, but it's still there. Reverse racism is what? When a minority hates a white person? I'm sure there is some of that, can't stop it either direction.

Racism is when systems have the ability to control laws and situation that effect peoples lives. There really aren't any minority controlled institutions that hold the white man down.

The way you are describing that work situation is strange, especially when you say race is the furthest thing from your mind when your made up example belies your conclusion considering the language and stereotypes you used.

I'm sorry you think that the black man is keeping you down in the rental car clerk business, really. That's a fast pace, high earning, cut throat, lucrative career and I'm sure your years of higher education just to land a job like that should itself warrant an immediate 7 figure salary. Quit looking for scapegoats in other people based on their skin color.
FuzzNJ
15 years ago

on the poll issue, its a tough call either way. the wording on them is so slanted its unreal. MSNBC did a poll that asked :

are you against STRIPPING public unions of their hard earned collective bargaining rights?

come on, thats a tad bit weighted

Papachristou wrote:



If that was done exactly as you stated, yes, that's not a scientific poll. My guess is it was done by the guy on at 10, forget his name. He does things like that all the time and they mean sh*t.

Real polls and studies, the ones to which I am referring, are out there and do show the results I have stated.
FuzzNJ
15 years ago

LOL!!! Yeah, I guess NOW, SEIU, AFLCIO, and the like have NOTHING to do with the Libs...

elk hunter wrote:




And you are refuting something I never said, that's called a strawman.

They do organize. What I did say is that overall, liberals are in no way as organized as conservatives when it comes to influencing legislation.

Even in voting in Congress for example. How many times have you seen a strictly partisan vote where all or all but 1 or 2 republicans vote on one side and only 80-90% of democrats vote on the other? I've seen it tons of times because the liberals are harder to organize and make vote or march as a group.

I'm impressed that you guys think we liberals are stronger than we actually are.
ZRX1200
15 years ago
I think I've exceeded my daily allowance of bovine manure.
FuzzNJ
15 years ago

Maybe a union or two??

Holy cow batman, you win for the understatement of the friggin year award.

For support of my statement, please see: Wisconsin; State of.
Circa 2011
Anynews.com

And just so you know that we know: yes. This is only the tip of that iceburg known as union-ville.

That florida sunshine blinding you, fuzz?
Or did you think you could simply slip that whopper right past us?

You're funny.



tailgater wrote:



Yeah, a lot of people got mad in WI, finally. It's about time. But how well did it work? Not well at all, yet. It's time people fought back for their rights and I hope it continues. It took an awful lot to get them finally pissed off.

If you were to look at state laws now across the country like right to work laws, union busting and other anti-worker pro-corporate laws in place or being proposed right now you would realize that complaining about the power of unions is just silly.

Florida sunshine? I haven't been to Florida in 6 years.

Mmmmm, whoppers. Haven't had one of those in a long time either.
FuzzNJ
15 years ago

I think I've exceeded my daily allowance of bovine manure.

ZRX1200 wrote:



Really? Your comebacks are always so informative and full of facts that rebut arguments in well thought out sentences. I'm shocked.

ZRX1200
15 years ago
My blood sugar is low.
I need a snickerdoodle.
FuzzNJ
15 years ago
I was away for a few hours trying to find a butcher in the area that sells lamb and hog casings to make my own sausage. Not one around here sells them. Pisses me off. I gotta find one online or something. Anyone know of one?
FuzzNJ
15 years ago

My blood sugar is low.
I need a snickerdoodle.

ZRX1200 wrote:



Yeah, that's the stuff. You have diabetes?
ZRX1200
15 years ago
Ping andytv if anyone knows he would.
tailgater
15 years ago

I know a lot of people, especially white people, like to think racism is a thing of the past, it isn't. Sure there really aren't anymore lynchings, but it's still there. Reverse racism is what? When a minority hates a white person? I'm sure there is some of that, can't stop it either direction.

Racism is when systems have the ability to control laws and situation that effect peoples lives. There really aren't any minority controlled institutions that hold the white man down.

The way you are describing that work situation is strange, especially when you say race is the furthest thing from your mind when your made up example belies your conclusion considering the language and stereotypes you used.

I'm sorry you think that the black man is keeping you down in the rental car clerk business, really. That's a fast pace, high earning, cut throat, lucrative career and I'm sure your years of higher education just to land a job like that should itself warrant an immediate 7 figure salary. Quit looking for scapegoats in other people based on their skin color.

FuzzNJ wrote:




In order:
Racism is when systems have the ability to control laws and situation that effect peoples lives. There really aren't any minority controlled institutions that hold the white man down.

Ever hear of affirmative action? How about quotas, especially in universities where its sold as "diversification"?
And don't forget the dumbing down of standarized tests in order to be more inclusive.
Don't kid yourself into thinking that only a "minority controlled institution" could enforce a racially motivated rule.


I'm sorry you think that the black man is keeping you down in the rental car clerk business, really. That's a fast pace, high earning, cut throat, lucrative career and I'm sure your years of higher education just to land a job like that should itself warrant an immediate 7 figure salary

??
Before I comment, I'll allow you a chance to explain your intent here.
Because it appears to use sarcasm to imply that someones chosen occupation is not honorable or otherwise important.
I'd describe the sort of vile loser that one would have to be to employ such a tactic to simply make a point, but I'll save it until you've had time to reconsider your words.

I honestly hope I have misinterpretted.

tailgater
15 years ago

Yeah, a lot of people got mad in WI, finally. It's about time. But how well did it work? Not well at all, yet. It's time people fought back for their rights and I hope it continues. It took an awful lot to get them finally pissed off.

If you were to look at state laws now across the country like right to work laws, union busting and other anti-worker pro-corporate laws in place or being proposed right now you would realize that complaining about the power of unions is just silly.

.

FuzzNJ wrote:



Let's look at WI.
A fine example set by their democratic elected officials.

Oh wait.
What's that?
The democrats FLED the state rather than perform their sworn duty??

And you hold WI up as a shining example of how democrats SHOULD behave??


Complaining about the unions will only be silly once the unions are gone.
elk hunter
15 years ago

In order:


[h]I'm sorry you think that the black man is keeping you down in the rental car clerk business, really. That's a fast pace, high earning, cut throat, lucrative career and I'm sure your years of higher education just to land a job like that should itself warrant an immediate 7 figure salary


??
Before I comment, I'll allow you a chance to explain your intent here.
Because it appears to use sarcasm to imply that someones chosen occupation is not honorable or otherwise important.
I'd describe the sort of vile loser that one would have to be to employ such a tactic to simply make a point, but I'll save it until you've had time to reconsider your words.

I honestly hope I have misinterpretted.

tailgater wrote:







The way Libs work Hank, is when there is a threat or they are proved wrong they resort to name calling and mud throwing... EVERY time...


elk hunter wrote:




ZRX1200
15 years ago
Im not a diabetic or a doorman.
tailgater Fuzzy likes calling people names, its lonely being a kept man.
FuzzNJ
15 years ago

The way Libs work Hank, is when there is a threat or they are proved wrong they resort to name calling and mud throwing... EVERY time...

elk hunter wrote:



That's hilarious right there considering what's happened on this board, seriously, you have GOT to be kidding.
HockeyDad
15 years ago
What happened? You talking about the CROS incident?
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