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ZRX1200
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15 years ago

#21

Brewha do you find fault with those have absolutes stemming from faith or was this a observation? Not being confrontational simply asking.

I am not the most "religious" person you will meet, but I do find fault with mans interpretation of Gods will/words. I also find no fault in thinking out doubts or thoughts.

Brewha
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15 years ago

#22

Brewha do you find fault with those have absolutes stemming from faith or was this a observation? Not being confrontational simply asking.

ZRX1200 wrote:

A fair question ZR – no confrontation taken. I do not find fault with absolutes from faith (I have a few myself). I do take issue with those who lose site of the difference between fact and faith; I can respect someone who absolutely believes that eating meat is wrong – provided they respect that I absolutely believe it is right.

People need to have faith. But faith to the exclusion of inquiry is wrong (my opinion).

BTW – seem there are as many interpretations of God’s will/word as there are people interpretation it.

DMV,
Sorry I just don’t follow “prove intolerance”. What do you mean?
BTW, Nice picture of Bush.

DrMaddVibe
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15 years ago

#23

DMV,
Sorry I just don’t follow “prove intolerance”. What do you mean?
BTW, Nice picture of Bush.

Brewha wrote:

No, you are in fact painting with wide strokes that don't need to be there. I explained quite clearly in my 1st post on this thread how I felt the OP isn't quite that "black and white" of an issue. If they cannot find a "Gay Gene" then why would I believe for one second that whatever side of my brain I favor at the moment is what dictates how I behave and believe?

YOU called conversativism some sort of intolerance and then tried to delve into a philosophical discussion to propel your beliefs.

A cradle to grave entitlement mentality and a buy/bailout mentality make no sense to me...at all. In the end someone ALWAYS pays. Wouldn't you rather be responsible for yourself? I sure as hell would.

BTW...it's actually it's our pRESIDENT.

Brewha
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15 years ago

#24

DrMaddVibe wrote:

Oh, don’t deny it – there are physical reasons for peoples predisposed thought patterns and abilities. That’s why musicians tend to run in families; though to be a thickening an area of the temporal lobes (that’s part of the brain). So some brains are less tolerant ambiguity and others are less tolerant of dogma - Makes sense to me.

Guilty – I did bring philosophy into the discussion – ETFOOM.

DMV, you seem a bit hostel and intolerant of other view points. Would you call yourself conservative?

Sorry about the pic. Looked to me like Bush giving the nation a hand job. Obama would be taller, ya know . . .

DrMaddVibe
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15 years ago

#25

Brewha wrote:

You want to claim some "high ground" and in painting with label swatches you come across as rather ignorant. Notice I didn't say stupid. We are talking about 2 different things. You can be a smart individual and be ignorant. I mean if you don't know, you don't know. Your "dogma" is what suits you. If you truly believe that every decision was already made for you in some DNA strain then swim around blissfully with that. I have a life to live to it's fullest.

Yes, Owebama is giving America a handjob. Don't worry, he'll figure out a way to get in a couple rounds of golf this week. THAT'S important business dontcha know. Besides Greece is on line 4...they deserve a bailout. Important work...important work.

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ZRX1200
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15 years ago

#26

I think DMV's tone is from the conclusion one could draw about your feelings of conservatives Brewha. I think one could easily assume you were showing ignorance of conservative thought process and kinda using the biological makeup aspect to show maybe a defect.

I often think some liberal arguments are ignorant, I try to never assume the thought or beliefs are the person though. That's the part of decency I think that has abandoned conversation.

Brewha
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15 years ago

#27

ZR, Thank you for the interpretation of DMV’s . . . writings. Your points are well taken.

I believe that people, conservatives and liberals both, are predisposed to “find what they are looking for”. As proof of this, I offer that no matter how many times I look, the monkey still looks like Bush. Plainly, there has been some faulty logic on both sides. 😄

Many times I have been frustrated with conservative arguments and assertions. I suppose more genteel language would benefit both sides.

Back to cases – without trying to find fault with either side, I believe there are physical differences in the brain that bias one to be liberal or conservative. I’m sure background has an effect as well.

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ZRX1200
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15 years ago

#28

And we agreee!

Oh no......Hehe.

FuzzNJ
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15 years ago

#29

There is no truth, only perception.

Brewha
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15 years ago

#30

Truth is mutable - from a pragmatic point of view - unless you are fundamentally conservative.
Did I get that right?

FuzzNJ
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15 years ago

#31

Truth is mutable - from a pragmatic point of view - unless you are fundamentally conservative.
Did I get that right?

Brewha wrote:

There is no truth at all. Only what we perceive to be truth. If we wouldn't be around to define, perceive or argue truth, it wouldn't exist. It is only a concept.

rfenst
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15 years ago

#32

Anyone got a study that supports or contradicts the OP?

ZRX1200
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15 years ago

#33

FuzzNJ rendered all opinions as void of facts so a contradictory paper would just be moot. Plus the OP didn't prove that he snoped it......so cbid forum bylaws don't require dissenting opinions to prove anything.

HockeyDad
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15 years ago

#34

Anyone got a study that supports or contradicts the OP?

rfenst wrote:

The study was based on 90 University College London students. That raises a few questions.

1. Does this only apply to English politics.
2. How does it work in countries where there are more political choices than the survey offered.
3. Do we really want to trust anything based on English brains.
4. Will these lead to a cure for "liberalism".

DrMaddVibe
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15 years ago

#35

Anyone got a study that supports or contradicts the OP?

rfenst wrote:

Well, if you're not from a family of musicians then you have no chance of becoming one...other than that...nope.

PS: Ever change your mind when you're at a restaurant? Why?

OOOPPPPS!![whip]

rfenst
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15 years ago

#36

Y'all don't need to get your panties bunched up over the o.p.

The study isn't earth shattering or 100% conclusive of anything much, other than that there are people investigating whether neurobiology plays any role in political ideology.

If a credible, convincing neurobiological connection does exist, wouldn't it be interesting?

DrMaddVibe
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15 years ago

#37

FREEWILL IS DEAD OUTRAGE!!!

Brewha
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15 years ago

#38

There is no truth at all.

FuzzNJ wrote:

Would you call that a 'truth'?o:)

Brewha
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15 years ago

#39

Interesting the conservatives on the forum seem to interpret the OP in absolute terms, i.e., we are hardwired and have no choice.

Could this be an intolerance of ambiguity? 🤔

HockeyDad
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15 years ago

#40

If a credible, convincing neurobiological connection does exist, wouldn't it be interesting?

rfenst wrote:

I think it would be incredibly interesting and could become the first step towards some sort of surgical cure for liberalism.

The possibilities are endless:

"Get Screened for Liberalism Early" public service announcements.

"Liberalism Awareness Month"

"Sarah Palin Liberalism Walk for the Cure"

....and outrage over the fact that Planned Parenthood offers liberalism corrective surgery paid for with taxpayer money!

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