Sure it adds to the thread. You said earlier in the thread about how inexpensive American apples are compared with a type of Japanese apple, because immigrants pick the apples. And someday, if all the immigrants are gone, only a few people (like you) could afford apples.

Remember that? Or do I have to copy and paste it here for you?

You are rich, Tey is an immigrant. You therefor are his Master.

And as for me being a pest. Because I point out your inconsistencies, half truths and mistakes. Being held accountable really burns your ass, doesn't it?

Warmest Easter regards.

Here you go adroomi, just in case you forgot what you said....
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98. Author: adroomi Date: 04/16/2006 12:13 AM Reply

'..Victor,
Yeah...that disease thing is a really bummer.

I really get upset at paying $1.50 an apple for a good Fuji apple in Tokyo because it's locally grown, when I could easily pay 5 cents an apple for an American grown apple in Tokyo (thanks to the cheap illegal immigrants that farm them).

What's next? The USA will get rid of illegal immigrants and I'll be paying $1.50 in America for an apple too?

Thank goodness I'm fortunate enough to have enough money to pay those prices. Once the illegals in America are gone, myself and a few other's will be the only one's able to afford apples. The middle class can eat cake....."
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No need to thank me. Its the Easter spirit within me that is helping my fellow mankind this evening.

Adroomi, the old carrot and the stick again. I'm smarter then that. Actually smarter then you, just less polished.

It was a nice try at bypassing my post to you about Paul Wellstone (didn't even scratch the surface on that one, just the funnier parts). Your better then that Adroomi, try going at it head on. You'll still loose, but you won't stay up all night mumbling to yourself what an ass I am.

How do you know how much money Tey has? You're logic is skewed, and your only point is to create conflict on this board. Why don't you knock it off?

And yes.....I'm glad I have money. I earned it.

I don't celebrate Easter by the way. I find the secular commercialism of it all offensive.

Quit buzzing around my ears....you bother me.

Besides, you ain't getting a fuji apple for five cents here either. About 1.60 a pound with a 4 to 5 apple per pound ratio makes it .35 to .40 per apple here.

Dang! I really like Fuji apples too.

I have no idea how much money Tey has. Its not the point. There is no way he could possibly be the wild success story that you are.

How do you like them apples?

Drathaar,

I never took a history course in undergraduate (actually, thats not accurate, my senior year I took History of Colonial Brazil, because the professor was a friend's father. I don't know his political leanings, but if I had to guess they would be conservative.), I have told you, I was a science major. I took my sociology, history,music (cello) and english in High School. "Interesting college you attended"? Johns Hopkins University, is one of the premier science research institutes in the nation. Is this a problem?

1) "You can find the Zero in the same book I recomended for you above, by Dan Flynn. Argue it with him." If you are going to use a statistic in your argument, you have to be able to deal with logical questioning of that statistic. Since no one is required to state their political leanings, how was this study done which showed a national average of 0 right wing history professors? Were all colleges questioned and all of their professors asked about their political belief? I'm questioning the number because I think its BS. I offered you another set of statistics done in a clear manner (there is even a study cited). Deal with that.

2) Since college is voluntary, and since most of the colleges in the US are private, one has to wonder how this is a forced indoctrination? The students are choosing to go to college, they are choosing what courses to take and they are choosing their professors. They have CHOSEN TO LEARN WHAT IS BEING TAUGHT. If the professors were acting in a manner which turned the students off, then the school would face declining admissions and would be forced to get rid of them. Or are you upset because a majority of the college students are left leaning?

3) But you were able to show that the professor graded you unfairly and had your grades returned to the level which you deserved? If that is the case then the system works. There is currently an appeals process in place at universities to ensure that students who have been unfairly graded are able to rectify the situation. As long as your grades were changed back to whatever you deserved, then there is no problem with the checks and balances in the system, are there?

Victor,

Do you have an bullet point posts I can read? Every post need not be a novel.

No offense intended.

While college is voluntary, many students have to attend public institutions. They have little or no pressure on them to be fair. As long as they are well rated, kids will go.

I saw that as I was scanning you last post (gotta be to bed by midnight and didn't have time for all of it) and noticed that little gem of goofiness.

"While college is voluntary, many students have to attend public institutions. They have little or no pressure on them to be fair. As long as they are well rated, kids will go."

Where did you read that? I missed it. I don't recall anyone saying that. That makes little or no sense to me.

WOW,
Just started catching up with this thread???
Yep wondering the same thing. I am yet to see an arguement that supports

1. That Ann Coulter has any more credibility, than Al Franken, just opposite sides.

2. That the majority of Professors are Liberal. I guess Drathaar had a run in with one, but that doesn't mean the majority of professors are liberal. But consider most of the folks around here, arkansas, see me as conservative. I guess anyone with more moderate beliefs than Drathaar, and rugrunner, are liberal. LOL
Wait till I tell my fellow Libertarians, that I am a liberal. LOL We reserve that term for democrats and republicans. Yep, the Dems are Socially Liberal, and fiscally conservative if you look at the actual spending. And Republicans, are socially conservative, which means they want to tell everyone else what is good for them, and fiscally the most LIBERAL party around. And they love to call the Dems Liberals, and themselves conservative. LOL
Oh Well let's let those to believe that they have actually won an arguement. As the "For Hockeydad" thread shows. Drathaar thinks he wind an arguement, even when totally out argued. I re-read that thread tonight. It is amazing how many times Drathaar changes topics, to get away from the fact that he is losing. LOL
OH Well.
Enough for tonight. I just worked 40 hours, out of the last 72, and I am tired.
Have a great night guys.
Dave (A.K.A. Homebrew)
P.S. Circular arguements are fun to read. LOL

I think you've seen this before Adroomi.

2) Since college is voluntary, and since most of the colleges in the US are private, one has to wonder how this is a forced indoctrination? The students are choosing to go to college, they are choosing what courses to take and they are choosing their professors. They have CHOSEN TO LEARN WHAT IS BEING TAUGHT. If the professors were acting in a manner which turned the students off, then the school would face declining admissions and would be forced to get rid of them. Or are you upset because a majority of the college students are left leaning?



If anyone believes this to be the case, they have not been a student on or talked to a student on a college campus in a long while. Or they are so to left they see Joe Lieberman as a right winger and are in denial.

no Rug,
You're quite wrong. In fact, you've got it BACKWARDS.

Public Schools (ie state universities and colleges) are even more strict in their teaching liberties. Professors are held to a more strict agenda, and flexibility is very little.

Inflamed grading scales mean that almost all students receive at least a 3.0 GPA (otherwise the money gets cut off).

Students do in fact pick and choose the classes they want in public schools too.

I dare you to find me ONE SINGLE student that was forced to take a class they didn't choose. If they did, it's because they didn't plan their schedule properly and had to settle for something they didn't want.

To state that colleges are liberal breeding grounds, might just mean that with education comes liberal thought. Therefore hard righters are the equivalent of non-educated.

"...Whether he should have been executed is up to the geneva convention. If you want to take our president at his word, we were at war with the Taliban, that makes Walker a POW and subject to all rights associated with it. "

But Walker is/was an American citizen, and as such, his actions were NOT the actions of a uniformed, and protected member of an enemy military, but those of a TRAITOR who was attempting to kill his own countrymen! Last I heard was that even though no one has been charged with it in a very long time, the punishment for treason is still death!

"I'm actually for a literacy test as well... Probably end up with a better president. ..."

First you have to have better choices!

CW,
American Citizen or not, if Walker chose to fight on the Talibans side, that's his business. Being tried as a traitor is not an option in this instance is it?

Adroomi,
CW has a good point here. This little "war against terrorism" has created a sticky position. As terrorists dont have an actual country to represent, their forces can be from any country, ours included. In this case which is more important, that we are officially at war with the organization they are allying with, or that they were originally US citizens?

Personally, I feel that their choice to work for the taliban makes them officially taliban fighters, regardless of where they are from. If we choose to be at war with the taliban, we need to follow our own rules even if the enemy doesn't.

8track,
I'm sorry, but I really do try to be precise when making a statement, I'm less likely to be misrepresented successfully at a later date. Because of this, I frequently end up typing more than I should. But it's a worthwhile read, I promise. 🙂

8track,

College in general is voluntary. State colleges ARE funded by state and federal money and DO have a number of restrictions. Actually, all universities do have academic codes in place to ensure that students are graded on their capabilities not their personal beliefs. These codes may be violated in cases (and may have been in draths case), and there are a series of checks and balances in place to rectify the situation.

Private colleges are in many cases able to teach whatever they want, whether it be religious beliefs or liberal ideology. Its funny, but I would have never considered going to St. Martin, because it is Catholic. I chose a school because of my desire to learn specific things. Drath perhaps did not look into what was being taught?