So correct me if I'm wrong I thought Graycliff cigars were made in the Bahamas Here is right off the CI website "Graycliff boasts one of the top boutique cigar factories in the world. Employing a mere one dozen skilled master-rollers, this small factory is home to the top-rated Graycliff cigar brand" and look at the picture of the shipment I got from CB 3 loose cigars and a factory 5 pack cello wrapped with the label mad in Honduras in it.

Many times, cigar makers will have their cigars made in other factories. For example, CAO Vision was made by La Aurora in the Dominican. Casa Magna is made by Nestor Plasencia, outside of the Dominican, for Manuel Quesada. Rocky Patel cigars are made all over the place, in factories owned by other cigar-makers and manufacturers. This happens often. However, it does not make the cigar any less CAO, Rocky Patel, Manuel Quesada, or Graycliff. In addition to making cigars in the Bahamas, they also manufacturer cigars in other factories in order to offer more variety at a lower price to the consumer. When you only have a dozen rollers (literally) it is difficult to make enough cigars to meet demand for certain brands. So they utilize another facility's operations, but help maintain the production, blend, and quality control.

Does the hyp.....er.........type print on this blend made out to sound like they're made in the bahamas?

I always thought the 1666 were the only Graycliffs rolled off sight.... Not true?

I hope not they're terrible.

I've been to the graycliff factory in the Bahamas and always wondered how could that little room make so many
cigars. just 5 or 6 tables.

now their list of aged cubans on site is to die for................

correct, not tru

Wait... 1666 Double Espresso? I've had a 1666 (meh), and I've had a Double Espresso (YOWZA), but they were VERY different sticks. That looks like the 1666 band, not the DE?

i thought double espressos had a black label

Well they are listed as 1966 double espresso on CB and CI I was confused the band said Hand made Bahamas but the tag said Honduras further research I found this line is rolled of site but why does the band lead you to believe it was made in the Bahamas. I like this cigar the over all experience was pleasant nice smoke for $4 a stick wouldn't ever pay the retail on these way over priced.

so what u are saying is...U got double wamey'd??

Yeah, that's what I was thinking, too - it's been a couple years, but I remembered the espresso line having black labels, and the DE being a special size in the espresso line. It looks like they're using that as the name for anything in the 4 1/2 X 60 size now, though. Weird. Oh well. I still prefer the espresso line. The 1666 wasn't offensive or anything, but it was pretty dull in every size except the Taco, which I really liked... and which also seems to have disappeared. Well, poo.

HeHe...double wamey!!!

I've been to The Graycliff Hotel and seen the rolling Room.It's the size of my living room.I knew they could never make enough cigars there to sell on the internet.Boutique,Schmootique....

Once again, you are wrong! This is one of my favorites no matter where it was made. ZRX, you must have burned your taste buds on the Manny I sent you.[-x

Not that Busa or any of you don't know this or care to not know this but... The double espresso is a size. Espresso is a blend.

So suck a fat shorty and say hehe and all that crap you perch turd!

Were talking bout the 1666 right?

Never had the double espresso 1666 but the older 1666 I had a five pack....smoked two gifted the rest.

See your supposed to gift sticks that you like. 🤐

Yeah, the 1666 DE has a nice smooth tabacco flavor that stays cool in high winds at the beach. I judge my cigars by the flavor in a 25mph wind.🇨🇮

That's not a double espresso..

wrong label,,

here it is,,

Wheel this is a new stick hommie.

They call it a double espresso 1666

What I was talking about was the OG 1666 not this one. OG is a yard gar at best...this one who knows!