wheelrite
14 years ago

You made all that up contrary to reality. The USA has enough enemies already without creating them out of thin air.

Turkey is a member of NATO. It is a secular state. We have a US Air Force base there. There are more US military personnel stationed in Turkey than in Israel.

SURPRISE!

HockeyDad wrote:



Obviously you aren'nt aware with what is happening in Turkey,,,

ask the Kurds...
wheelrite
14 years ago

HD,,
read and learn..

-
The Washington Times

It should come as no surprise that Turkey - while attempting to absolve itself of blame for the aggressive use of a flotilla to deliver supplies to the Hamas enclave in Gaza - is again the hub for a new effort to resupply the terrorist group (“Flotilla report clears Israel; new blockade break planned,” Geopolitics, Monday).

In contrast to the previous Turkish government, which considered Israel a friend, the current regime under Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan has turned virulently anti-Israel with its support not only for Iran, but Hezbollah and Hamas.

HockeyDad
14 years ago

Obviously you aren'nt aware with what is happening in Turkey,,,

ask the Kurds...

wheelrite wrote:




The Kurds will tell you everything I wrote is true. They will also tell you they don't like Turks, don't like Iraqis, and want to set up their own country. If you dig a little further you will find out that a number of Kurdish separatist groups have been deemed to be terrorist organizations by the USA.

(You might want to be careful what you ask them!)
wheelrite
14 years ago

The Kurds will tell you everything I wrote is true. They will also tell you they don't like Turks, don't like Iraqis, and want to set up their own country. If you dig a little further you will find out that a number of Kurdish separatist groups have been deemed to be terrorist organizations by the USA.

(You might want to be careful what you ask them!)

HockeyDad wrote:



well.
if my people were attacked with chemical weapons and constantly raided by Turks I doubt I would like them either.

You dislike the Kurds because the adore GWB,,

btw,,

why do you hate Israel ?
did you get a bad knish in Miami ?
HockeyDad
14 years ago

HD,,
read and learn..

-
The Washington Times

It should come as no surprise that Turkey - while attempting to absolve itself of blame for the aggressive use of a flotilla to deliver supplies to the Hamas enclave in Gaza - is again the hub for a new effort to resupply the terrorist group (“Flotilla report clears Israel; new blockade break planned,” Geopolitics, Monday).

In contrast to the previous Turkish government, which considered Israel a friend, the current regime under Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan has turned virulently anti-Israel with its support not only for Iran, but Hezbollah and Hamas.

wheelrite wrote:





So you are denying everything I wrote because of an opinion piece from the Washington Times. You're from Texas so you aren't supposed to understand any of this. Let's start by keeping it simple......

Look up whether or not Turkey is a member of NATO.
wheelrite
14 years ago

So you are denying everything I wrote because of an opinion piece from the Washington Times. You're from Texas so you aren't supposed to understand any of this. Let's start by keeping it simple......

Look up whether or not Turkey is a member of NATO.

HockeyDad wrote:



The Nato alliance with Turkey is nearly irrelevant now.
We'll be forced out of Turkey in short order.They used to want to be considered as part of Europe but with the collapse of the Euro Zone the zealots have assumed control...

You're not really the smartest person in the room,no matter how condescending you attempt to be.
HockeyDad
14 years ago

well.
if my people were attacked with chemical weapons and constantly raided by Turks I doubt I would like them either.

You dislike the Kurds because the adore GWB,,

btw,,

why do you hate Israel ?
did you get a bad knish in Miami ?

wheelrite wrote:





So are you defending the Kurdish terrorist groups? Kurdistan Freedom Falcons?....Kurdistan Workers Party? Not only are they terrorist groups but they are socialist/Marxist/Leninist. That's the bedfellows you just jumped in with.

Did you know that three days ago Israel's foreign minister stated that Israel may offer military aid to the Kurdish rebels to punish Turkey. Wouldn't it just be great with the USA funding 25% of Israel's military budget, Israel then takes that money and gives it to a terrorist group that attacks a USA/NATO ally? ...and you would excuse that?

I don't hate Israel but I do not blindly excuse everything and anything Israel does. With Israel, many people get stuck on the "you're either with us or you're against us and an anti-semite" mindset and are terrified to criticize Israel in any way for fear of the anti-semite police. Outside of the USA, this ploy has lost its effectiveness.
wheelrite
14 years ago



Who’s Behind the Second Gaza Flotilla?


Within a few days, Israel will once again confront a flotilla of sea vessels designed to break Israel’s naval blockade on the Gaza Strip. But who are these people?

Ehud Rosen, a teacher at the Bar-Ilan University, wrote the following article for the Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs.

Rosen’s research pulls the curtain back on the “humanitarian” efforts of this second flotilla in just more than a year. He shows the main organizer is a radical Muslim group based in England:

"The second flotilla is coordinated by Muhammad Sawalha, a senior UK-based Muslim Brotherhood figure connected to Hamas. Many of the participating organizations can be directly linked with the Union of Good (UoG), a coalition of European charities affiliated with the Muslim Brotherhood, which in 2008 was designated as a terrorist organization by the U.S. Treasury for transferring funds to Hamas. The UoG was initiated by Sheikh Yusuf Qaradawi, leader of the Muslim Brotherhood on a global scale, shortly after the outbreak of the Second Intifada in 2000.”

The Muslim Brotherhood is closely aligned with radical leftist groups like the following:

“Other main organizers include the anti-Israel International Solidarity Movement (ISM), as well as far-left socialists from Europe and the United States. Many of the flotilla's main organizers have stated that its prime aim is to create provocations and harm Israel's image.”

This collusion between radical Islamist organizations and radical leftist groups has been called the “red-green alliance.” Rosen concludes that:

“ ... the flotilla is far from being a peaceful, humanitarian effort to support the Palestinians in Gaza. It should instead be seen as a major, pro-Hamas effort to delegitimize Israel by a "red-green alliance" of leftists and Islamists."

His article is well worth the read to see behind the facade of this "humanitarian" mission.


Hmmm?

Egypt ,Turkey(Nato Member LOl) and Muslim Brotherhood...

sound suspicious HD ?
HockeyDad
14 years ago

The Nato alliance with Turkey is nearly irrelevant now.
We'll be forced out of Turkey in short order.They used to want to be considered as part of Europe but with the collapse of the Euro Zone the zealots have assumed control...

You're not really the smartest person in the room,no matter how condescending you attempt to be.

wheelrite wrote:





So you just declare NATO irrelevant and that it will all fall apart! All you're going on is a prediction that everything I stated will one day be overturned.

I never said I was the smartest person in the room but face it, you couldn't find Turkey on a map and proved it!
wheelrite
14 years ago
HD,,

obviously you are ignorant to the History of the Kurds..

wheelrite
14 years ago

So you just declare NATO irrelevant and that it will all fall apart! All you're going on is a prediction that everything I stated will one day be overturned.

I never said I was the smartest person in the room but face it, you couldn't find Turkey on a map and proved it!

HockeyDad wrote:



NATO is irrelevant and has been for a long time.It sevres no real purpose now.Ask Libya..
HockeyDad
14 years ago

Who’s Behind the Second Gaza Flotilla?


Within a few days, Israel will once again confront a flotilla of sea vessels designed to break Israel’s naval blockade on the Gaza Strip. But who are these people?

Ehud Rosen, a teacher at the Bar-Ilan University, wrote the following article for the Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs.

Rosen’s research pulls the curtain back on the “humanitarian” efforts of this second flotilla in just more than a year. He shows the main organizer is a radical Muslim group based in England:

"The second flotilla is coordinated by Muhammad Sawalha, a senior UK-based Muslim Brotherhood figure connected to Hamas. Many of the participating organizations can be directly linked with the Union of Good (UoG), a coalition of European charities affiliated with the Muslim Brotherhood, which in 2008 was designated as a terrorist organization by the U.S. Treasury for transferring funds to Hamas. The UoG was initiated by Sheikh Yusuf Qaradawi, leader of the Muslim Brotherhood on a global scale, shortly after the outbreak of the Second Intifada in 2000.”

The Muslim Brotherhood is closely aligned with radical leftist groups like the following:

“Other main organizers include the anti-Israel International Solidarity Movement (ISM), as well as far-left socialists from Europe and the United States. Many of the flotilla's main organizers have stated that its prime aim is to create provocations and harm Israel's image.”

This collusion between radical Islamist organizations and radical leftist groups has been called the “red-green alliance.” Rosen concludes that:

“ ... the flotilla is far from being a peaceful, humanitarian effort to support the Palestinians in Gaza. It should instead be seen as a major, pro-Hamas effort to delegitimize Israel by a "red-green alliance" of leftists and Islamists."

His article is well worth the read to see behind the facade of this "humanitarian" mission.


Hmmm?

Egypt ,Turkey(Nato Member LOl) and Muslim Brotherhood...

sound suspicious HD ?

wheelrite wrote:





I didn't see any mention of Turkey in that! You made up a new enemy.

Look this up: Incirlik Air Force Base, Turkey

http://www.incirlik.af.mil/ 


(By the way, we store nuclear weapons there!)

HockeyDad
14 years ago

HD,,

obviously you are ignorant to the History of the Kurds..

wheelrite wrote:





Feel free to enlighten me! (But keep in mind a number of Kurdish groups are on the US list of terrorist organizations)
wheelrite
14 years ago

I didn't see any mention of Turkey in that! You made up a new enemy.

Look this up: Incirlik Air Force Base, Turkey

http://www.incirlik.af.mil/ 


(By the way, we store nuclear weapons there!)

HockeyDad wrote:



Incirlik was established during the cold war,The Turks were terriffied of Russia.Those days are long past.
Turkey has degraded to a country overly influenced by The Muslim Brotherhood and their ilk..

They are no friend of America or Israel...
wheelrite
14 years ago

Feel free to enlighten me! (But keep in mind a number of Kurdish groups are on the US list of terrorist organizations)

HockeyDad wrote:



So are the so called Palestinians you love.

The difference,
The Kurds have a valid claim to a recognized state.Hamas does not..
HockeyDad
14 years ago
Did you know that Turkey has Predator and Reaper drones that we sold them?! Yup, no friend of ours!

Someone told you that you've got a new enemy and you're "all in"!
HockeyDad
14 years ago

So are the so called Palestinians you love.

The difference,
The Kurds have a valid claim to a recognized state.Hamas does not..

wheelrite wrote:




So you support Kurdish terrorist organizations?

Personally, I do not support any terrorist organizations worldwide. Hamas is a terrorist organization and I don't see any sign of them ever renouncing that.
wheelrite
14 years ago

Did you know that Turkey has Predator and Reaper drones that we sold them?! Yup, no friend of ours!

Someone told you that you've got a new enemy and you're "all in"!

HockeyDad wrote:




We also sold weapons to Mexican drug Lords,so what...
wheelrite
14 years ago

So you support Kurdish terrorist organizations?

Personally, I do not support any terrorist organizations worldwide. Hamas is a terrorist organization and I don't see any sign of them ever renouncing that.

HockeyDad wrote:



whatever,,

you are so Pro Palestinan it's sickening.They're animals that the Arabs don't want either...
HockeyDad
14 years ago

whatever,,

you are so Pro Palestinian it's sickening.

wheelrite wrote:




The funny thing is that isn't even correct but it's all you got. Enjoy the US-Turkish war! I'm just not going to buy into the idea that I have to hate everyone that Israel tells me to hate.
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