"even if it's just for the fact that they are up there, on stage every night, performing."

Its there job. Sorry but for me that doesnt give them my respect. I do that 3 or 4 times a month. So its really no bg deal. For a musician to get a musicians respect they have to do more than just be on stage. The music industry will sign anyone they think will sell. Regardless of talent. You want my respect, show me something new and original.

Thats why musicians who have the talent and who arent signed are so pissy about it. Its not about the music anymore. Back in the day, Van Halen didnt try to sound like Nazareth. Foghat wasnt trying to be UFO. Led Zeppelin had there thing and Queen had theirs. They all had a spot in the order. Now a days the industry signs dozens of copy cat bands. If that sold, well we will just sign the next 30 bands that sound like that until the public is sick of it then we will tell them what to like next. My god, there are a hundred bands out there that all scream like the cookie monster. Its sad. I am in clubs a lot. Most of the hard rock bands all sound the same. 30 to 40 minutes of the same thing. Almost nobody comes up with anything new.

Disgruntled wanna be recording artist, over and out.

^ That's called pop-rock. Anyone who wants to diagree can, but all those new bands out sound exactly the same. Teenagers these days don't apreciate music, they listen to who the tv tells them to listen to. And you have a bunch of those kids that heard 1 metalica album and think they're heavy metal...buncha posers if you ask me. Exactly why I don't buy albums anymore.

Rant off

All good points but -

...the man had a contract and he should be paid whether he's an ego-maniac from the 80's or not.

Steve, I'll keep quiet on this now so you don't get mad at me for disagreeing with you. =)~

I will admit, everything you hear on the radio and see on Mtv is the same, boring song with different lyrics. This is why I do not listen to the radio or watch Mtv. However, to say the music industry deserves no respect these days because hair bands are no longer is just plain silly. There are plenty of great bands and musicians out there doing their own thing, with a unique sound and feel. David Lee Roth is too blind to see this, because he's still dreaming of himself onstage in a pair of tight pants with too much hairspray in his mullet-fro.

Steve,

Please let me in on some of the great bands and musicians doing their own thing. Seriously, I am a bit sheltered these days where new artists are concerend. To busy dealing with our own stuff to really have time to venture off the beatin path and find anything that might make me take notice.

DLR is sooo yesterday. His old stuff rocked, but constant play on the regular radio killed it for me.

Replacing some one like Stern is tough and doing good radio is much harder than it sounds. DLR’s replacement, O&A with Jimmy Norton, can be quite entertaining, try them.

Get a XM or Sirius and enjoy the music you want to hear.

Beat - I can honestly say, you'll listen to 10 seconds of any band I'll name and instantly turn them off. Most people do. But, if you honestly want to know...

Tool

Nine Inch Nails

Trivium

Chimaira

Shai Hulud

LostProphets

Avenged Sevenfold

36 Crazyfists

My list within this one (broad) genre could go on and on.

hard core

I really liked that Live Sevendust disc with special appearances by Leonard Nimoy and Zamfir. It rocked!

What makes you say I wouldn't like any of them??? By the way, my band doesn't exactly play at church socials. While we arent Death Metal, it sure isn't Styx or Nickleback either.

Tool isnt exactly "new"

And I love Tool by the way. Perfect Circle eh, Tool light.

And well...Tool dosent really exists anymore

I have heard of a couple of those bands. NIN has been around for what 10+ years. I do have a 16 year old son who is in to Dimu Borgier (sp) Cradle of Filth, Lamb of God, who I kinda like, etc etc so Im not THAT sheltered.

I dont care for NIN. Ill check out some of the others

Although Tool isn't new, they are still active and current. Check your local Best Buy, they just released a new album last week.

Dimmu Borgir is ok, but a little too 'satanic' for me. Otep is another one I like that's quite unique.

I actually know one of them. Nine inch nails. One song they did was " I want to ____-you like an animal".

That's the only one I know. The only reason I know that is becuse i asked the stripper that was dancing to it. 🙂

Steve R

Of the "list" only Nine Inch Nails is worth listening to...they are pretty damn good. Tool sucks...

Charlie

Yeahh Charlie!

Sorry, had to chime in. I'm a crazy huge NIN fan and I can't not give my 2 cents

Charlie - Have you ever seen Tool perform live? Without a doubt, the best-sounding band I've ever seen. They're incredibly talented. But, too each their own 🙂

NiN are good, but I prefer their older stuff. I mainly put them in the list so Doc could chime in! Plus, I knew it would be a band at least some people would know.

Loved the music in one of my favorite movies, "Man on Fire" by Nine Inch Nails......

Charlie

I was really trying to stay away from this thread but I took the bait.

Tool is amazing. They're playing in Philly on May 17th

=)

Ya know..I knew Tool was releasing a new CD...

Danny Carey is a Freakin Monster!

I agree with the Borgir thing. The arrangements are cool with the whole classical influence. But the whole death and devil stuff is a bit much. I just cant get into that vocal style.