Well, Barroid Bonds has what he wanted ... 714 home runs ... he had to cheat to do it, though ... without the aid of the cream and the clear, HGH and who knows what else, he'd be somewhere between 550 and 575 right now ...

Frankly, it makes me sick ...

The real laugher to me with the entire "beating the Babe's Records" issue is that very few of the baseball analysts or commentators bring up the NUMBER OF PLATE APPEARANCES !!! With Bonds the focus is on the steroids issue...but add to that the match up the # of round trippers Bonds hit in the SAME AMOUNT of plate appearances as Ruth ----not even close !!

It took Bonds over 1,000 MORE plate appearances to hit the 714 mark then it took G.H. Ruth to do the same thing... Hank Aaron had almost 4,000 more plate appearances before he retired as the 'greatest Home Run Hitter' of all time....

I agree with steves, "he had to cheat to do it, though ... without the aid of the cream and the clear, HGH and who knows what else, he'd be somewhere between 550 and 575 right now ... "

Do you deny his alleged drug use? Even without performance enhancing drug use, Bonds has present day trainers and improved environmental ellements to counteract " the NUMBER OF PLATE APPEARANCES !!! "

My god dude, look at Bonds through clear glasses.

Good post Steve, I hope most could care less for the cheater who wears number 25.............

Charlie

I hope Barry Bonds shatters all the home run records. That will give us something to complain about for many years. Well, at least until the android players debut in the year 2053 because they will crush all present records and then we can debate whether android and human baseball records should be kept separate.

Bro Doc puts it into perspective. X

I think Sports Illustrated collumnist Rick Reilly has the best take on this whole subject ... "we don't celebrate the number of Hulk Hogan's fake wrestling 'wins' ... why would we celebrate the number of San Francisco Giant Head Barry Bonds fake home runs"? ...

LOL....you mean the Hulkster had fake wins......

Charlie

Steriods or not ...

... it's still a major accomplishment for any man.

Did anyone see the game in Houston where Barry was hit twice? Does anyone why the pitcher hit him?

I was listening to Jesse Jackson's radio show and they all agreed it was out of pure racism and the pitcher should be banned for life.

They (Jesse, Al Sharpton, Willie Brown ex SF mayor, and some black sports writer from Chicago named Will somebody I think) also feel that people are only upset with Bonds breaking Ruth's record because he is white and that when Bonds passes Aaron, no one will care.

They also feel that every change made in sports is to keep the black man down (raising the hoop in B ball, lengthening the courses in golf).

Very interesting. I would love to here what happened in Houston though.

Jesse, Al and Willie make their living by race-baiting. Why would it surprise you that they try to create racial issues where none exist? That's their bread and butter.

Reagrding golf, lengthening the courses actually makes it easier for Tiger. Very few golfers can hit it as far as him. The extra length eliminates 1/2 of the competition.

he was hit for the SAME reason that alot of power hitters are getting tagged THIS year in japan baseball. where do you pitch a power hitter? up and inside. if you lose control to one side, sayonara--a 4-bagger...if you lose control to the other side, ping--a 1-bagger. i tell you this, if i were a pitcher, i would throw every ball i had up and in to barry. make the record on another guy!

did you see the game Brian? They were all conviced that the only reason was racism.

Wille and Jessie and Al, Now there is a qualified team of sports commentators if ever there was one!

didn't see it...but let me ask you this? would you hit a guy TWICE that everyone KNOWS is taking steroids???? i wouldn't do it intentionally! but he ain't breaking no records off me! up and in. also, if the pitcher is a rookie, he is looking at the 2nd best homerun hitter of ALL time...that is gonna make you nervous, take you out of the game a bit. sweat on the ball.

heck, if i was gonna intentionally hit him, i would throw it very slowly...maybe underhanded...

Hall of Fame pitcher Bob Gibson, in an interview on HBO's Costas Now, on Barry Bonds crowding the plate while wearing body armor: "I think I would break some of that armor."

I'm in North Carolina right now at my parents, and I came here to give a scholarship in my brother's memory at the church that my parents attend.

We were in Sunday School yesterday, and the lesson was on Proverbs. The proverb that comes to mind about cheating is:

A false balance is an abomination to the Lord, but a just weight is his delight.

The lesson was Don't Cheat. Even if no one else knows you're cheating, God does.

A side note was then discussed. The story said that a farmer went to market to sell his cotton. As it was weighed on the scale, out of view, he stepped on the scale. When the man at the market gave him his money, he told the farmer that he had sold his soul for a $1.50 . . .

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Author: jetblasted Date: 05/22/2006 10:28 AM

Even if no one else knows you're cheating, God does.

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IMO, at the very least BARRY knows he cheated ... he knows he didn't legitimately attain the numbers ... it would be SO much less satisfactory to know your "achievements" weren't strictly arrived at on merit, but on cheating the system.

he doesn't care being an arse and all

Re:16,

SteveS,

Bob Gibson would knock down the bat boy for limping too slow! LOL