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triodes
Aficionado Topic Starter

13 years ago

I'm one of the newbies.#-o

Living in SC, the moisture content inside my home is higher than in my wineador even in summer with the A/C running.

I can open the door on the wineador and watch the RH climb on the digital hygrometer. The temp part doesn't respond as fast.

R/h is relative to temperature, so even if the house is comfy, there is still higher moisture content in the air inside my home than in the wineador.

Edited to add = because of these conditions no box in the house can serve as a drybox.

So, I bought one of these

http://www.amazon.com/Eva-dry-Renewable-E-333-Wireless-Dehumidifer/dp/B000H0XFCS/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8&qid=1374425607&sr=8-13&keywords=dehumidifier

Put it in an empty cigar box and after a while you have a drybox.

Whatever other dessicant you happen to have around should work pretty much the same. But, I didn't have anything not in use, and the ones I have need to be dried out to refresh.

This seemed pretty simple to recharge ( dry out ), just plug it in for a bit.

For now, I plan to simply store the unit in the cigar box I am using for a drybox. Uncertain as to whether I can get it too dry - but should work for now.

When the heat starts cycling - shouldn't be an issue. Moisture content in the house will drop.

Edited by user 13 years ago | Reason: Not specified

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kombat96
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

Just buy some hf beads, they absorb the humility.

dharbolt
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

Just buy some hf beads, they absorb the humility.

kombat96 wrote:

Freudian slip?

dstieger
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

nice catch, dh.....or else the beads just don't work very well....

[sarcasm]

stogiemonger
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

I'm one of the newbies.#-o

Living in SC, the moisture content inside my home is higher than in my wineador even in summer with the A/C running.

I can open the door on the wineador and watch the RH climb on the digital hygrometer. The temp part doesn't respond as fast.

R/h is relative to temperature, so even if the house is comfy, there is still higher moisture content in the air inside my home than in the wineador.

So, I bought one of these

http://www.amazon.com/Eva-dry-Renewable-E-333-Wireless-Dehumidifer/dp/B000H0XFCS/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8&qid=1374425607&sr=8-13&keywords=dehumidifier

Put it in an empty cigar box and after a while you have a drybox.

Whatever other dessicant you happen to have around should work pretty much the same. But, I didn't have anything not in use, and the ones I have need to be dried out to refresh.

This seemed pretty simple to recharge ( dry out ), just plug it in for a bit.

For now, I plan to simply store the unit in the cigar box I am using for a drybox. Uncertain as to whether I can get it too dry - but should work for now.

When the heat starts cycling - shouldn't be an issue. Moisture content in the house will drop.

triodes wrote:

All of this to open the box and smoke the cigar in the same conditions you've been avoiding through the entire process?
It's all kind of silly to me. Sometimes, we tend to overthink cigars.

My advice... Select a nice ideally humidified cigar from your humidor, fire it up, and enjoy!🇨🇮

triodes
Aficionado Topic Starter

13 years ago

All of this to open the box and smoke the cigar in the same conditions you've been avoiding through the entire process?It's all kind of silly to me.!🇨🇮

stogiemonger wrote:

I am not smoking in the same conditions in the wineador. I am smoking in conditions much hotter and more humid.

The change in temp and humidity is a good bit. It can be a real problem.

This summer - a number of times when I take a cigar from the humidor and go out side to smoke - it is so hot and humid - I can often watch several splits occur in the wrapper while I am smoking.

when these splits occur the cigar will suck air thru the split.

It can be so bad that at times I have taken a cigar that was straight, looked great - and before I am a third of the way through the end will be crooked and shoot off at an angle. A split opens, moisture enters thru the split, swells that side - other side remains the same - crooked cigar, that is not going to burn evenly.

I have read about dryboxing, and am giving that a try in an attempt to resolve these issues.

Shouldn't be an issue this winter.

Edited by user 13 years ago | Reason: Not specified

dharbolt
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

I have had similar experiences to what you describe. I have actually had them split without even lighting them, but... I have not tried the drybox, and do not see how drying out a cigar will help. Just seems to me it would make the humidity difference even more extreme, and possibly make the issue worse. I'm sure someone will tell me if I am wrong.

triodes
Aficionado Topic Starter

13 years ago

seems to me it would make the humidity difference even more extreme, and possibly make the issue worse.

dharbolt wrote:

I share that concern.

I am hoping that by dryboxing for a day or so prior to smoking - that enough humidity will be pulled from the wrapper and outside portions of the cigar that when higher temp/humidity hits, the wrapper will be able to absorb it without expanding so much that the wrapper splits.

The biggest problem here seems to be expansion from increased humidity and temp.

I am hoping that by a bit of "predrying" will give the cigar a little more margin for expansion prior to the wrapper splitting.

dunno, only one way to find out - then I won't be sure till I seem to have resolved the issue - by that time will be cooling and lower humidity anyhow - so I'm damned if I do and damned if I don't

One of those things that "seemed like a good idea at the time!"

[email protected]
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

This has got to be a storage problem, I have taken many cigars directly from my 65/68 humi, smoked them in my south Florida garage at 90 degrees and 90% or higher humidity and never had a cigar "split" from absorbing the rh diff. Just my .02

stogiemonger
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#10

[email protected] wrote:

Yup! I'm in New Orleans, and have very little climatic related smoking issues ruining my day.

I mean. What are you gonna do next? Build another climate controlled dry box on the back porch to smoke in?

Just smoke them. 🐴

youngra
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#11

I would do a calibration on the meter in the winedor, or whatever else you are using - maybe it's too dry to begin with??

Just my .02

dharbolt
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#12

What are you gonna do next? Build another climate controlled dry box on the back porch to smoke in?

stogiemonger wrote:

Hmmmmmm.....

dharbolt
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#13

My coolerdor holds at 65 degrees and 67 rh pretty steadily. Hygrometer calibrated monthlyish when I'm not being lazy. Have not had many issues with splitting cigars, just a couple. I agree with the just smoke em school of thought.

triodes
Aficionado Topic Starter

13 years ago

#14

I'm sitting solidly on 65/65, with recently calibrated hygrometers - calibrated at the actual storage temp/rh. I have noticed that calibrated at one temperature/rh doesn't mean you are calibrated properly at storage temp/rh.

Never had noticeable issues till I went down to 665/65 from 70/70.

However, most seem to burn and taste better at 65/65

Since I started taking them out 6 or 8 hours before smoking them, that seems to have reduced it somewhat.

I am sure as hell smoking every one.

Would be nice not to have wrappers split on me.

If the dryboxing appears to help, or make it worse, I will post back any noticeable results.

While I am attempting to resolve the issue, I am not doing this with any sort of scientific method and notes.

Edited by user 13 years ago | Reason: Not specified

delta1
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#15

Have you kept track of the brand of cigars and type of wrapper leaf this has happened to? Some of the lighter colored wrapper leaves, sumatran and cameroon, are thinner and may split more easily. If that's the case, save those for days when ambient rh is lower. If all else fails, move to socal...I've never had that happen here, except when I've had an occasional Gurkha.

sd72
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#16

Sage advice delta.

triodes
Aficionado Topic Starter

13 years ago

#17

Have you kept track of the brand of cigars and type of wrapper leaf this has happened to? Some of the lighter colored wrapper leaves, sumatran and cameroon, are thinner and may split more easily...

delta1 wrote:

Was going to smoke a cameroon that was dryboxed to see how it did, but a different one went on auction and I had one in the humidor I had never tried so wanted to smoke that prior to auction end.

Bottom line.

2 cigars that I dryboxed since last night, did not split. One of them had previously been a serious offender and came out of the 70/70 cooler, been here for months.

However, since my tastes have changed, neither was satisfying so I took another one out of the 70/70 cooler and it already has three splits in it, one of them close to an inch, and a second almost as bad. This cigar has been here for around 6 mos at 70/70.

Not a definitive or scientific answer, but a good start.

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Buckwheat
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#18

Just give her a kiss and a rub and you won't have trouble with dry box.

delta1
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#19

^lol.

Surprised you got good result with drybox, triodes. Figured drying the wrapper more would result in greater rh difference, making it worse. I remember when I was a kid, some of the fog cigar smokers in the neighborhood would put the entire cigar in their mouth and pull it out through pursed lips, moistening the wrapper. I was gonna recommend that, but was afraid the wizazzes here would say you were giving the cigar a BJ...although it does kinda look like that, come to think of it.

Palama
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#20

delta1 wrote:

My oldest brother (RIP) used to lick his cigars so when I became of age and had a chance to smoke one, I did the same thing. Can't say that it made for a better smoking experience but I musta been smoking White Owls back then.... 🌫

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