tailgater
12 years ago

I am probably in the minority for a change, but I've always had a problem seeing this issue as a political party line item. I see it more as an individual's philosophy based on factors such as but not limited to religious beliefs, fear of allowing the gov't the ultimate power, fear of killing by mistake, etc. Just has a different feel to it than welfare programs, international relationships, taxes, et al. Hey, that's just me.

We have conservatives here that are against state authorized murder, some cite one or more of the above for their rationale.

If the op is hellbent on establishing that libs are girly men without the testicular fortitude to pull the switch, then I am in the wrong thread. However, I did not infer that from the op at first.
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frankj1 wrote:



It's not about the fortitude at all. If I have painted a picture as liberals being namby pansies, it is unrelated to the topic at hand and is a truth that stands on its own merit. 😇

But it is generally true that conservatives favor capital punishment, while liberals lean towards the bleeding heart approach.
Truth be told, I'd prefer to see this **** put into the general prison population for the rest of his life, which would likely be just a few months before he was shanked for the killing of the kid.

But living in our bluest of blue states, it is comical to watch the politicos try to justify their outright ban on the death penalty while embracing the federal decision to allow it. It's a rare opportunity to witness hypocrisy so obvious that you can feel their conflict.
THAT is the intended focus of this thread.

frankj1
12 years ago

It's not about the fortitude at all. If I have painted a picture as liberals being namby pansies, it is unrelated to the topic at hand and is a truth that stands on its own merit. 😇

But it is generally true that conservatives favor capital punishment, while liberals lean towards the bleeding heart approach.
Truth be told, I'd prefer to see this **** put into the general prison population for the rest of his life, which would likely be just a few months before he was shanked for the killing of the kid.

But living in our bluest of blue states, it is comical to watch the politicos try to justify their outright ban on the death penalty while embracing the federal decision to allow it. It's a rare opportunity to witness hypocrisy so obvious that you can feel their conflict.
THAT is the intended focus of this thread.

tailgater wrote:


I get ya...and I smiled too.
frankj1
12 years ago

I am not a proponent of long death penalty sentences. Instead I would rather see a 9mm to the back of the head. Simple, cost effective, and done quickly without year after year of appeals. I don't want my tax dollars providing advanced education, healthcare including sex change operations, or food.

cacman wrote:


plenty of opportunity to live in countries that agree with that type of swift, powerful, totalitarian government style judicial system.

You'd only have to be careful not to exercise freedom of speech there, or right to assemble,or several other rights that you would no longer have. Your security would be enhanced, however. Not a deal I'd make.

I sometimes feel and say stuff like you posted, but I make sure I don't make decisions until I regain control of my emotions, and then I pray a fair trial yields the correct verdict.
PorknBeans
12 years ago
if they wanted him dead he would already be dead
this is just a nother watch the squirrel moment
frankj1
12 years ago

if they wanted him dead he would already be dead
this is just a nother watch the squirrel moment

PorknBeans wrote:


he's gonna be dead, he deserves to be dead...just don't want my fingerprints on it.
fiddler898
12 years ago
The five possible outcomes (some call them goals) of sentencing are restitution, rehabilitation, deterrence, restoration & incapacitation. The only goal that is met by capital punishment is incapacitation. That said, it's my uneducated guess that Holder's seeking the Death Penalty is a strategy to get the accused to strike a bargain where he gives up everything he knows. Trouble is, the brains (if you want to call it that) behind the attack is dead, which makes my guess even less educated.
wheelrite
12 years ago
The death penalty is wrong,,,,



wheel,
stogiemonger
12 years ago
If the feds wanted to have authority over this trial, or the sentencing, they should be trying it themselves in a military court, as a war crime.
jetblasted
12 years ago
Seems like the Feds did an over-ride with the DC Sniper, too . . . They didn't let him sit on death row for 20 years, either . . .
rfenst
12 years ago

If the feds wanted to have authority over this trial, or the sentencing, they should be trying it themselves in a military court, as a war crime.

stogiemonger wrote:




Federl court is appropriate.
Gene363
12 years ago

It's not about the fortitude at all. If I have painted a picture as liberals being namby pansies, it is unrelated to the topic at hand and is a truth that stands on its own merit. 😇

But it is generally true that conservatives favor capital punishment, while liberals lean towards the bleeding heart approach.
Truth be told, I'd prefer to see this **** put into the general prison population for the rest of his life, which would likely be just a few months before he was shanked for the killing of the kid.

But living in our bluest of blue states, it is comical to watch the politicos try to justify their outright ban on the death penalty while embracing the federal decision to allow it. It's a rare opportunity to witness hypocrisy so obvious that you can feel their conflict.
THAT is the intended focus of this thread.

tailgater wrote:



This pretty well sums it up. One thing about any shortcuts in trials, especially those leading to the death penalty, you never know who is going to be elected and use them on the 'wrong' people. To wit, look at the unbridled liberal hate for conservatives, e.g., Palin, Rush and Coulter. Just to be fair, we could use a few less patchouli oil stinking ocu'tards, though I would not be in favor of killing them, a real job would be punishment enough.

As for sh|t bag number two, there isn't enough bad we could visit on him to make up for his evil. Ban his image and lock him in a cell to listen to recordings of the injured until the end of his miserable life.

drywalldog
12 years ago
So are you pissed off because the dems wanna drop the hammer on this dude, or because its against Mass. Law? Or because you didn't getto say it first?
drywalldog
12 years ago
Getto that's funny.
drywalldog
12 years ago
Unbridled liberal hate for conseratives, that's priceless.
Gene363
12 years ago

So are you pissed off because the dems wanna drop the hammer on this dude, or because its against Mass. Law? Or because you didn't getto say it first?

drywalldog wrote:



Not 'pissed' at all, just highlighting the hypocrisy.

Unbridled liberal hate for conseratives, that's priceless.

drywalldog wrote:



Well at least you acknowledge the hate.

drywalldog
12 years ago
No hate for Obama, Clinton, Pelosi, Reid, Gore, or any others. Hell ,, most here would pull the trigger to off all the above if they knew they wouldn't get caught.
Gene363
12 years ago

No hate for Obama, Clinton, Pelosi, Reid, Gore, or any others. Hell ,, most here would pull the trigger to off all the above if they knew they wouldn't get caught.

drywalldog wrote:



Freud had a name for this: Psychological Projection, thoughts, motivations, desires, and feelings that cannot be accepted as one's own are dealt with by being placed in the outside world and attributed to someone else.

drywalldog
12 years ago
That kinda works for your second comment on line 35. Nice of you to point that out.
Gene363
12 years ago

That kinda works for your second comment on line 35. Nice of you to point that out.

drywalldog wrote:



No it does not, go back and read post number 16.

jetblasted
12 years ago
This reminds me of driving to work back in the late 80's listening to Paul Harvey.

He told the story of a child rapist that was put to death for the crime after sitting on death row for over 20 years, the countless appeals, the extremely high costs attributed to this man's heinous crime.

Paul Harvey then switched gears, telling the story of a man in Iran who sodomized 3 boys the same week as the broadcast, and then threw them off a cliff to their deaths. One survived, and crawled his way back into town to tell what had happened. The town folk went and found the man that same day, took him to the same cliff, and threw him off the cliff to his death.

Good, Day !!
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