Avocado Limited Reserve,

If you’re on the prowl for a serviceable, non-gag-inducing handmade, Avocado Ltd. might just be your cup o’ tea. Hand ’em out to freeloaders, burn one while mowing the lawn....hell, pull the wrappers off, douse with ranch dressing and enjoy a low-carb meal. At this price, you’ll feel like you’re playing with the House’s money. Mild, Dominican-made, Candela-wrapped long-filler sticks for pennies.

Never tried and never will!

Ilovetosmoke68 wrote:

I can't really answer this question. It is a journey that every noob must make themselves. I can say that there are entire brands that I avoid now because of repeat issues/too many bad sticks.

borndead1 wrote:

Josh, send all your full-strength, full-body cigars to me at once. Keep the dog rockets though.

erjaq wrote:

5 vegas gold maduro...the gold standard of crap

rumraider wrote:

Yep, even taking into account the recurring Gurkha bashing that goes on around here, the 5V Gold Maduro is nearly universally panned. Many of us have tried hard to love it, then maybe like it, then tolerate it, but yeah, it's pretty much a waste.

Which means someone is about to post how they love it, buy it by the box, have a dedicated humidor/coolerdor. 🤦

Bur wrote:

you know....my preferences would not have developed and progressed if I had not experienced the crappy cigars.

How do you measure how good you think a cigar is without a base to compare to? It's my opinion that it is essential to try as many different types of cigars as you can to build your palate.

Also, what I think is a bad cigar, you may enjoy. What I think is full strength, you may find medium or possibly mild strength. It's all subjective.

robertsccr5 wrote:

A bad cigar to me is: bland, harsh burnt leaf taste, ashtray finish
I have only been in the game for a couple months now but have smoked dozens of dog rockets.
Diesel might be making this list, have a couple more to try.
Trying to give a better understanding of the general dislikes and reasonings. To save noobs some leg work.

Hillbillyjosh770 wrote:

A bad cigar to me is: bland, harsh burnt leaf taste, ashtray finish
I have only been in the game for a couple months now but have smoked dozens of dog rockets.
Diesel might be making this list, have a couple more to try.
Trying to give a better understanding of the general dislikes and reasonings. To save noobs some leg work.

Hillbillyjosh770 wrote:

Some sites show the body, but I don't know of any that show the strength. You might just have to go through a phase of trial and error, and remember to have a sugary drink or to swallow a spoonful of sugar or something if you get nauseous.

erjaq wrote:

[quote=opelmanta1900]so there's some problems with this...

the dog rockets sold here are constantly changing... sometimes it's a new rocket altogether, and sometimes it's the same rocket with a new label... but either way, new ones come along constantly...

In terms of yard gars, some people here smoke them and don't want you to drive up the prices on the ones they smoke...

there are definitely some people here who like black crowns... not me, but they are here...

Padilla actually makes some very nice cigars... just some, not a lot... they used to make some much better ones than they do now...
Yes they did . . . when under the watchful eye of DPG.

some of the botl's here probably have some padilla's buried in their humidor that are better than any cigar you've ever had...
Yes . . . Yes we do ! 👍

jespear wrote: