Plowboy221
11 years ago
Yeah Alec Bradley, I like supporting my local B&M even though he doesn't have much of a selection really but prices aren't horrible and has some higher end items that are kind of on the htf side that don't move much, I'll swing by and grab a couple every now again. Which is nice.
Plowboy221
11 years ago
An I wasn't trying to offend or be a d!ck by my comment earlier btw.
opelmanta1900
11 years ago

An I wasn't trying to offend or be a d!ck by my comment earlier btw.

Plowboy221 wrote:



No offense taken... I know the selection is nothing compared to what a lot of places can afford to do... we're in a town of 10,000 people and, as I said, the only walk-in in a 30-mile radius...

kinda like mom and pop bait shops trying to compete with walmart, we try to offer one-on-one customer service time that the bigger guys can't and that helps make up for what we don't have...
jojoc
11 years ago

very wise... the inventory I "inherited" was heavily General/Altadis... we've cleared/discontinued a lot, but not all of that... we still carry a couple of RyJ's, a few punch's, a couple H.Upmannns, and a few Montecristo's...

The plan right now is and has been to help educate new/newer smokers (about 80%-90% of our cigar sales)... a lot of that is me sitting in there for 3 and 4 hours a night and talking to every person who comes in about the cigars they smoke or have smoked and trying to pass on to them the info I have received from other guys - many of whom frequent this forum...

when customers who frequent us ask us to carry something and we know it isn't garbage, we'll carry it... that's how we got the Onyx and the Patel Super Ligero's... that's worked well as it's helped me to help others smoke stuff they normally wouldn't... turns out a bunch of people really like the Super ligero...


The thing we have going for us in trying to accomplish "B" is that the shop is not a cigar shop/not dependent on cigar sales... we're a california smoke shop... lots of hookah's, upright waterpipes (like a bong but for tobacco), cigarettes, black and mild's, a bigger selection of white owl's than you've probably ever seen, rolling papers, oil burners (crack pipes not meant for crack), and a ton of other stuff that keeps the lights on...

opelmanta1900 wrote:





Early in my smoking days my local B&M (they protect me) started to carry more Ashton's base at least in part on my request. I would stop in every couple weeks to see if they had any Ashton Aged Maduros. Not only did they start stocking more of the Maduro's, they expanded on the whole line. Those that are new to cigars tend to stick with the cigars and brands they recognize. I got introduced to Ashton's early on, and they continue to this day to be one of my goto brands.

Sounds to me you are doing this right .... proactively working on the education process, and buying what your customers want. Rather than going after the "limited release" high-end cigars, go for the reasonably priced quality cigars. It is unlikely you will be able to consistently stock the WOAM, PAM, Opus, high-end Tats, etc. However, introducing your customers to Ashtons, Don Carlos, Diamond Crown, Tat Havana, and other quality, mid-ranged priced cigars can do a long way to build a stable customer base who will be loyal because you did right by them.
frankj1
11 years ago

gotta have some maduros in that Padron "000" list..................
if only one, the 3000 maduro

KingoftheCove wrote:


that was my first thought. high quality smokes at a great price, the maddies are great.
Mr Roso
11 years ago
Camacho has great marketing muscle and may help boost sales for the 'cool' factor. Just my 2 cents.
opelmanta1900
11 years ago

Camacho has great marketing muscle and may help boost sales for the 'cool' factor. Just my 2 cents.

Mr Roso wrote:


talked to the rep about them... he said the triple maddie sells well out here... I'm partial to the connecticut so we may go with the both of them... and you're right, they are heavy on the advertising out here...
kip5166@gmail.com
11 years ago
Camacho, great line, from mild to full and everything in between. Just my opinion, Also as stated above, more great smokes from My Father/DPG
delta1
11 years ago
I know this will not go over well with this crowd, but the Acid Kuba Kuba and a couple of others and the Java lines sell well at the local B & M's. They'll need their own little corner though...

EP Carillo has a bunch of moderately priced good cigars.

+1 My Father/DPG
illinichaser
11 years ago

I know this will not go over well with this crowd, but the Acid Kuba Kuba and a couple of others and the Java lines sell well at the local B & M's. They'll need their own little corner though...

EP Carillo has a bunch of moderately priced good cigars.

+1 My Father/DPG

delta1 wrote:




You know we will mock you for it! But of course you are absolutely right. Drew Estate has made a ton of money off these lines, and its not from cigars sitting on the shelves. They sell. "Serious" cigar smokers, may not care for them, but boy they sure can help keep the doors open and provide funds for buying "serious smokers, type cigars".

If I were running a shop, it absolutely would carry some acids.
ZRX1200
11 years ago
Yup.

I was at my local yesterday, guy in front of me got $150 worth of them.
mountainman
11 years ago

Yup.

I was at my local yesterday, guy in front of me got $150 worth of them.

ZRX1200 wrote:



I know every person that asked me about my cigar while I was out in town tried to compare it to an acid cigar with rare exceptions. I would also recommend the Ashton classic and casa manga, not an intimidating price point and a great smoke.
knokmdwn
11 years ago
I didn't read the whole thread, just parts of it, but I am surprised that I didn't see any Montecristos (unless I just missed it) I think the average guy that DOESN'T smoke cigars regularly and wants a couple for the golf course or a little family get together would go to one of those just by name recognition.
opelmanta1900
11 years ago
ray - we've got some monte's... bringing in the monte by monte this next week too... RyJ, Monte, Punch, Partagas, Cohiba - we have those... I just don't know much about them and don't recommend them to people... we don't talk people out of them but we typically steer people towards something similar at a better price point or something better at a similar price point...


As for infused, when I first started at this, the infused sales were outnumbering the real cigar sales 2 to 1, easily... so the first expansion concentrated heavily on expanding the acids, bringing in the full Java line, those stupid cognac soaked gurkha's in the waxed tubes ($18), and adding a few more I feel comfortable recommending to people... brining in a few of the CAO flavours on the next order...
bassman45
11 years ago

I didn't read the whole thread, just parts of it, but I am surprised that I didn't see any Montecristos (unless I just missed it) I think the average guy that DOESN'T smoke cigars regularly and wants a couple for the golf course or a little family get together would go to one of those just by name recognition.

knokmdwn wrote:


Great point,I couldn't get enough of the Monte double coronas when I worked my way up the ladder!
delta1
11 years ago
Is the shop located in an area that draws a lot of tourists from the northeast? The owner of a local here said he carries and sells a bunch of Nat Sherman cigars for those travelers...
opelmanta1900
11 years ago
funny you mention that... for whatever reason, we had a box of some kind of nat sherman that went untouched for awhile... I didn't pay attention to them for a month, all of a sudden there are only 2 left... so ya, we're gonna expand our Nat selection a bit...
delta1
11 years ago
👍

Good luck, Bro!
illinichaser
11 years ago
Oh yeah, that Delta cat must be a noob. Flavored cigars. Phfft. Next he's gonna want you to stock lolly pops


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frankj1
11 years ago
retailers have to decide if they want to carry smokes they like or smokes that sell. For what it's worth, the smokes that most here don't care for sell way more than many listed above...that's how they pay the rent.
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