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7 years ago
So I've been doing some house cleaning and tried donating our collection of vintage VCR tapes mostly children's stuff to our local library. They didn't want Em. I then posted on Facebook on local parents community where I was informed to check them out on eBay as some may be worth sumpin. Check it out I did. Kinda wished I hadn't as there's some crazy information regarding prices for a handful of Disney tapes that we own. I read FGM's thread about eBay and I won't try it but I wish I could get some answers regarding actual values. đŸ€Š
opelmanta1900
7 years ago
What ones are you looking at specifically that you feel might be worth money?
Sunoverbeach
7 years ago
The rest hang onto for a bit. Urban Outfitters is trying to bring back VCRs and tapes like they did for cassettes and Walkmans
Thunder.Gerbil
7 years ago
Per a friend of mine who makes a living selling used books on Amazon and rare books, VHS, DVD and such on ebay, most Disney VHS tapes are only worth between $3 to $15 Once the fees are taken out, your'e looking at between a buck to $10 profit. Only sealed very rare versions are worth more, and not a crap ton at that, $20, $25-ish. You can list them for whatever you want, but that's what they sell for, exempting the fluke occurrence with odds about equal to hitting jackpot on a lottery ticket.
Palama
7 years ago

Per a friend of mine who makes a living selling used books on Amazon and rare books, VHS, DVD and such on ebay, most Disney VHS tapes are only worth between $3 to $15 Once the fees are taken out, your'e looking at between a buck to $10 profit. Only sealed very rare versions are worth more, and not a crap ton at that, $20, $25-ish. You can list them for whatever you want, but that's what they sell for, exempting the fluke occurrence with odds about equal to hitting jackpot on a lottery ticket.

Thunder.Gerbil wrote:



Just asking for a friend...any market for Beta tapes or laser video discs?
RMAN4443
7 years ago
on e-bay you can look for "completed sales", and you can see what items actually sold for
I think it's listed in the "type of auction" on the checklist on left of page
Sunoverbeach
7 years ago
Ooh, laser discs! The wave of the future....at least for about a year or so
delta1
7 years ago
haha...still have a few 8-track tapes...
Thunder.Gerbil
7 years ago

Just asking for a friend...any market for Beta tapes or laser video discs?

Palama wrote:



Beta players sell. Beta tapes, not so much. I'm guessing old home movies that were shot on beta and people want to view or transfer them.

LD is hit and miss. There are a few LDs out there that were never re-released on DVD, HD-DVD or Blu-Ray. Also, some of them were tweaked before being released on new formats and someone might want the older version. Some of those are worth more, problem is, the number of people collecting them is dwindling rapidly.


Ooh, laser discs! The wave of the future....at least for about a year or so

Sunoverbeach wrote:



Closer to 25 years, almost 30 including Japan only releases if you want to be technical. Or accurate. More than double that of DVD, if 4k is considered the successor to Blu-Ray, then triple it's run...

Agreed that with current HD and 4K, their time has passed for anything modern, but for their era, it was hard to, and still is, hard to beat a CAV disc on a high end player. The neat thing, and somewhat unique, with CAV was that the frame rate matched that of film, 24 frames/sec. Hit pause, you are looking at an exact frame from the 35mm or 70mm master print.

Doesn't sound like much until you watch something like the Criterion version of the original Blade Runner. You'll be there hitting pause every few minutes and gawking at the amazing glass paintings and visuals. Big screen, CLD99, unicorn version... plan on 6 hours. Mind blowing. And it was all analog.
Whistlebritches
7 years ago

Just asking for a friend...any market for Beta tapes or laser video discs?

Palama wrote:




Bought my first VCR in Hawaii,BETA.Was great in Hawaii and Japan...
..returned stateside and nobody knew what the **** BETA was.I still have the player,my daughters Christening,birthdays 1-4 along with some other childhood events are all on BETA.
Sunoverbeach
7 years ago
All I knew was I saw LD in stores for a bit, but was just a pipedream in our 17in Zenith (color mind you) TV household. Had no idea they were around for that long
Palama
7 years ago

Ooh, laser discs! The wave of the future....at least for about a year or so

Sunoverbeach wrote:



I bought the LVD of “Fantasia” back in the mid-80s with the intent of making Beta copies of it and giving them to my friends and family. I was still working for Sony and one of our techs had a Pioneer LD player, he was gonna do the duplicating for me. We never got around to doing it and then I quit.

While it had superior video quality, LVDs could never overcome the general high cost and non-ability for the consumers to record. On the upside, the laser technology would later be used for CDs and DVDs so there was a silver lining to its failure. 👍
Thunder.Gerbil
7 years ago

All I knew was I saw LD in stores for a bit, but was just a pipedream in our 17in Zenith (color mind you) TV household. Had no idea they were around for that long

Sunoverbeach wrote:



Yeah, understood, it's a very common and completely understandable misconception. Their high cost made them very limited in distribution. Movies would cost $50 to $100 (per disc of a movie) or more in the 80's - early 90's.

Each side of an LD had to be printed separately, then glued together in a clean room. The quality was amazing, yet the idea was so stupid all at the same time. The labor and machinery needed was nuts. A product intended for consumer mass market, assembled, with human intervention, in a clean room... WTF... Yeah, that totally spells "profits" in capital letters.
Thunder.Gerbil
7 years ago

I bought the LVD of “Fantasia” back in the mid-80s with the intent of making Beta copies of it and giving them to my friends and family. I was still working for Sony and one of our techs had a Pioneer LD player, he was gonna do the duplicating for me. We never got around to doing it and then I quit.

While it had superior video quality, LVDs could never overcome the general high cost and non-ability for the consumers to record. On the upside, the laser technology would later be used for CDs and DVDs so there was a silver lining to its failure. 👍

Palama wrote:




Did Fantasia have Macrovison protection on it? I forget....

The box set was even more of a cluster. Disc 3 was all fuggered up. Due to some inert gas mix error or some crap like that during manufacturing, it was basically unplayable unless you had one of the short wavelength "red-laser" players, which were stupid expensive.

(I had 2 copies, I'm an idiot... 😰 )
RMAN4443
7 years ago

haha...still have a few 8-track tapes...

delta1 wrote:


I have about 1700 of them in storage....I guess I was hoping they'd make a comeback[-(
Palama
7 years ago

Bought my first VCR in Hawaii,BETA.Was great in Hawaii and Japan...
..returned stateside and nobody knew what the **** BETA was.I still have the player,my daughters Christening,birthdays 1-4 along with some other childhood events are all on BETA.

Whistlebritches wrote:



Wouldn’t it been a hoot if I sold it to you at NEX? We held a few Sony sales there with me helping to man the booth / area. Which model? 8600? 5000? 2500?

And yes, for a few years Beta dominated in many areas, especially Hawaii and Japan. Of course Sony was the first one to come out with videocassette recorders, the marketing was just pizz-poor. One of the stories is that Sony executives showed RCA a Betamax player and they loved it! BUT, they said for the US market, Americans would use VCRs to watch movies so the tapes had to be 2 hours long. The Sony execs were flabbergasted at the thought. Slowing down the tape speed would mean video quality degradation. Using a thinner tape would mean possible breakage.

So they said no.

Matsu****a (...or was it JVC?...) then showed RCA their system, got asked the same question and agreed to a 2-hour tape and branded them “Video Home System” or VHS for short. When consumers went into the stores looking for that “Video something-thingamajiggy...” salesman would ask “VHS or Beta?” and most times the consumer, not really knowing the differences, would say VHS.

Sony also did a pizz-poor job of licensing the Beta technology. Iirc, only Toshiba, Sanyo and Fisher were onboard with Beta. Eventually each would just go with VHS.

But here’s another little known fact, the Beta loading system is modeled after the Sony professional broadcasting tape loading system called U-Matic. When Sony was developing video tape recording for their professional division, they first came up with M-Wrap...but, as you can imagine the tape looping around multiple rollers to create that “M” look, it caused more stress on the tape so their 2nd loading system was U-Matic...which became the industry standard. Less stress and better video quality. When Sony decided to market a home version of their video tape recorders, and used the U-Matic loading system, they dubbed it “Beta”. As Delta would know, Beta is the 2nd letter in the Greek alphabet.

Sony would later license out the M-Wrap technology to Matsu****a and JVC. The deal, of course, was rather hush-hush but ultimately their success would lead to the downfall of Beta.

Fast forward a few years and Sony would learn from that fiasco and partner with Phillips to standardize compact discs. At the time, the two companies were trying to come out with their own versions for digital audio. Phillips was the inventor of cassettes so had a HUGE presence in the audio market. Sony, of course, was HUGE in the electronics hardware market. By partnering, the two giants would have a stranglehold on the new technology. Lesson learned...too bad they didn’t know about some young whippersnapper named Steve Jobs....
RMAN4443
7 years ago

Sony would later license out the M-Wrap technology to Matsu****a


Curiosity is killing this cat.....why did you obscure the company name? Do they sell cigars, or is there another reason? Serious question guys TIA
Palama
7 years ago

Sony would later license out the M-Wrap technology to Matsu****a


Curiosity is killing this cat.....why did you obscure the company name? Do they sell cigars, or is there another reason? Serious question guys TIA

RMAN4443 wrote:



Oops! Matsu-s-h-i-t-a aka “Panasonic” in the States.
Whistlebritches
7 years ago

Wouldn’t it been a hoot if I sold it to you at NEX? We held a few Sony sales there with me helping to man the booth / area. Which model? 8600? 5000? 2500?

Palama wrote:




Well I did buy it at the NEX early 83.As for the model next time I'm in our storage I'll look.
Palama
7 years ago

Well I did buy it at the NEX early 83.As for the model next time I'm in our storage I'll look.

Whistlebritches wrote:



Right timeframe for you and I to have “met” back then.. Iffin’ early ‘83 then it coulda been the last of the top-loading ones. SL-5800, built like a tank (...or battleship for you Navy boys...). Wired remote, variable scan speed but super solid. Maybe one of the best VCRs Sony ever made. I had one until I upgraded to the SL-HF750 around ‘87 or ‘88. If not the 5800 then maybe the 5000, the base front-loading model, silver case, wired remote.

Man, how do I remember stuff like that but can’t recall what I had for lunch yesterday? đŸŒ«
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