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opelmanta1900
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7 years ago

#21

Lot of saltwater reels have a "tack" that allows you to anchor the braid onto the spool, eliminating the need for backing...

My brothers shimano has one, my Okuma does not... I back with a few yards of mono...

I don't do a ton of casting, but Kast king line has been our go to for years... Dirt cheap, never had a mystery break....

MACS
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7 years ago

#22

^That is also true. My Shimano Torium and Daiwa Saltist have the little tack on the spool. I don't recall my Avets having that, but when they spool 'em up for me at Turner's, they use the finger tape and that machine to make it tight.

JadeRose
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7 years ago

#23

^That's funny, I've got braid tied to all my salt water reels and there is no slip (use finger tape dipsh*t)... and everyone here in the San Diego area puts braid first and then mono or fluoro top shot.

The key to putting braid on so it doesn't "dig" is to put it on tight.

That video I posted shows a yellowtail taking a lot of line once I got him to the boat... on a baitcaster... with braid tied to the spool... and about 6 feet of fluoro leader.

This guy used a short bit of dacron for non-slip, but finger tape will do the same. Aaaaand he put it on tight.

MACS wrote:

2 different types of fishing. The Biggest reason to use backing is to save a little dough. Even a double digit bass will never spool your reel when it runs. Why use expensive Braid on the interior of a reel when it will never see the water? You are, of course, right about spooling it tight but it doesn't stay that way and anything less than 30 lb braid on a bc will cause more than just digging problems. Wind knots would be a big problem, too. Just not a good idea. I personally use 14 lb mono on my bc's (except froggin..there I use 50lb Suffix and 65 lb Kast King). You can really calm mono line memory with KVD Line and Lure Conditioner. I don't know what that $hit is but it works

MACS
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7 years ago

#24

True... for freshwater I wouldn't even bother with braid unless there was a whole lot of weeds/lily pads.

As far as money goes... if you don't respool with mono every year, you're foolish. Braid lasts for many years. It only cost me $40 to spool my Lexa with Spectra. And lets be honest... if I spent 35k on a boat and hundreds more on my rods/reels/gear... am I gonna fuss over $40 worth of line?

JadeRose
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7 years ago

#25

MACS wrote:

No argument. My mono reels get new line at least once a year if not a couple of times. There is simply no need to completely fill a freshwater BC with Braid. You can if you wish and use tape or whatever but there is simply no need. It's Ray's money. He can do with it what he wishes. He's gotten good advice from all of us and can do what he wants and can afford.

BTW....my spinning reels that I use 8 lb braid on have no backing. They are straight braid.

JadeRose
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7 years ago

#26

Actually, the best bass fishing advice I can give anyone is to join BassResource.com. If you can't find what you're looking for there, stay off the water.

danmdevries
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7 years ago

#27

I can't catch a bluegill with a worm and bobber.

MACS
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7 years ago

#28

There is simply no need to completely fill a freshwater BC with Braid.

JadeRose wrote:

And that there is the difference. I use braid in my saltwater application for 2 good reasons: 1 - if the fish runs into the kelp, I got a better chance of getting him out. 2 - if you're on a cattle boat and your line gets crossed with the guy next to you and you're both fighting a fish... but you have braid and he has mono... you will land your fish, and he will get sawed off.

Happened last time I was out. Guy next to me asks why I use braid and I told him that. When we got tangled fighting fish and his line broke... he believed me.

JadeRose
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7 years ago

#29

Agreed. Ray seems to be asking about fresh water bass fishing. Which doesn't apply to the Pacific Ocean.I ain't slagging what you do. If I lived where you do, that is exactly what I would be doing.

fishinguitarman
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7 years ago

#30

Good stuff here guys!

MACS
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7 years ago

#31

In my excitement to talk fishing, I lost sight of that key issue.

I pretty much gave up on bass fishing once I started fishing the ocean consistently. Still have my gear (no braid), but it's gathering dust.

JadeRose
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7 years ago

#32

MACS wrote:

All is well, My Brother. Whether you're catching double digit bass, 100 lb tuna, or sunnies on hook with a bobber, if you're fishing, life ain't bad

fishinguitarman
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7 years ago

#33

👍👍👍👍👍

fishinguitarman
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7 years ago

#34

They have 1 son ZRX n prolly another soon! I have 3 grandchildren now!

Good to be back!

DrafterX
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7 years ago

#35

There's some nice bass in Ray's pond.. had a very good day.. 👍

fishinguitarman
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7 years ago

#36

Let’s not lose sight of the fact that for bass Braid is much more sensitive. You can feel the slightest bump and has no stretch. Perfect for soft plastics (Texas rigs) in heavy cover. BTW I’ve never had an issue with spiderwire with breaking or cutting grooves in eyes. Not saying that is what I’ll get but just saying

fishinguitarman
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7 years ago

#37

Yup Drafter we have been wearing em out!

fishinguitarman
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7 years ago

#38

Yup Drafter we have been wearing em out!

JadeRose
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7 years ago

#39

fishinguitarman wrote:

If you like it, use it, Ray. I tried when I was first getting serious about Bass Fishing and found it brittle as hell. Maybe they've improved it. I have braid, fluoro and mono on my reels. To me lines are a tool like anything else. The right tool for the application.

fishinguitarman
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7 years ago

#40

150% agree I have spincast for my wife, spinning and bc for me. I bought 40 and 50# spectra max, 3 rods including a 7’6” heavy action for flipping etc 3 reels and tackle/bags. Now the work begins. Respooling 17 rigs with mono flouro and braid and so forth yada yada

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