Last grasp
fishinguitarman wrote:
Who told you to say that?
Tail
Figures.
That’s the risk taken when electing an egomaniac to the office. He just couldn’t keep his mouth shut. Loose lips sink ships.
Abrignac wrote:
From a legal defense perspective, he needs to not breath a single additional word about this and not tweet anything about it.
keep in mind that the House will only determine if there are grounds for impeachment, meaning a charge, or charges, against the POTUS for breach of a high crime or misdemeanor or abuse of power...Trump will be the best witness against himself...Abrignac nailed it when he said Trump is an egomaniac...there is enough evidence for impeachment....
the House would determine the "indictment", and would then send it to the Senate for trial to determine if there are grounds for removal from office.....
the standard of proof in such a case is much lower than in a criminal case...the Constitution itself does not set a standard of proof....you don't need proof beyond a reasonable doubt to impeach or to remove from office: Trump's own words establish that he did something beyond the norms of the power of his office....
but given the composition of the Senate, even if the evidence reveals Trump did commit high crimes and misdemeanors and abused his powers the GOP controlled Senate would not vote to remove Trump from office...
Who elected tail?
teedubbya wrote:
Me, if he's replacing Stump. He might be an a$$hole but he's OUR a$shole and I can live with that.
in reality, though, politics dictate the when...Mueller delivered a smoking gun, but the House refused to act...
then Trump did something even more egregious...basically saying he is above the law...the Russian thing/Mueller Report seemed to show Trump that he can use foreign influence to win elections and there are no consequences..... so he decided to double down with Ukraine to win the 2020 election while in office ..
Is an impeachment conviction a disqualifier ?
So if the documents that get released show nothing and nothing happens, you can thank the Democrats for helping getting Trump in 2020
Cheno wrote:
I'm a potential Dem vote that they have not won yet...like the last election I am leaning toward 3rd party so far.
A big factor is that the Dem will win my state, MA, so my vote is wasted whether I vote Dem or GOP...but maybe this time the third party will get the 15% needed to get on the stage for the next election debates.
JadeRose wrote:
Then it’s our schitt to deal with...
Tail, is this news worthy? Robert, it is premature. We know nothing right now. Though an inquiry is not an impeachment. Right now I am more concerned that another law has been broken, that is verifiable.
Speyside wrote:
I want the recording(s) to be heard. Written transcripts produced by an accused are not necessarily as credible.
