Palama
6 years ago

I never got past "Don't bother drafting me, because I won't play for your chitty team....just ask my daddy."

dstieger wrote:



+1

Eli wasn’t the first one to do (...Elway, Bruce Clark, couple more...) but didn’t think his talent warranted the stance. There’s been times I wished the Chargers had been the AFC representative in those SBs against the Giants and beat NY.
KingoftheCove
6 years ago

Horst, you’re probably too young to remember the impact Joe had on the game...and I don’t mean just Super Bowl III. Talkin’ about pro football in general. Besides being Broadway Joe and changing how football players were supposed to look and act, his taking down of the “invincible” Colts proved that the AFL could play with their NFL counterparts. It was huge and it made people change their opinions of the “other” league. Then, when the Chiefs beat the Vikings the next year, the AFL didn’t have to take a backseat to the NFL and could negotiate on equal terms when it was time to finalize the merger.

So yes, Joe may have had only one (...REALLY...) good day but it was a historic day and one that would change the NFL.

Palama wrote:


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I remember Namath well.................not at all too young................unfortunately.
I agree he belongs in the HOF............simply for his impact on what became the unified NFL.
But not based on his career stats.............just go look at them...........fairly average.........and I'm being generous.

He was actually a great runner in his college days, til he blew out a wheel.........and in those days........dey couldn’t really fix em like they do now.
There’s a great piece out there on his life story on da web somewhere..........thinks it’s in the “A Football Life” series......but not sure.
He seems like a really good dude..........just hit the bottle too hard for certain stretches in his life.
Palama
6 years ago

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I remember Namath well.................not at all too young................unfortunately.
I agree he belongs in the HOF............simply for his impact on what became the unified NFL.
But not based on his career stats.............just go look at them...........fairly average.........and I'm being generous.

He was actually a great runner in his college days, til he blew out a wheel.........and in those days........dey couldn’t really fix em like they do now.
There’s a great piece out there on his life story on da web somewhere..........thinks it’s in the “A Football Life” series......but not sure.
He seems like a really good dude..........just hit the bottle too hard for certain stretches in his life.

KingoftheCove wrote:



Of course his stats weren’t so hot. To me, that era of football, up to 1978, was totally different than what it’s become today. When they changed the pass-blocking and put in the 5 yard contact rules, offenses really opened up. Back-in-the-day, pass-blocking was so much harder for the offensive linemen (...couldn’t extend your arms and your hands had to be closed...) and DBs could literally mug receivers, that all changed in ‘78. Then you start adding in the “safety” rules - defenseless receiver, no head-slap, helmet-to-helmet, roughing the passer, etc., we’re basically in the pitch ‘n catch era of football. Oh, and of course expanding the league and adding more games to the regular season.

So yeah, Joe threw more INTs than TDs and his record as a starter was .500 but imagine if he was born 30-40 years later and he had access to the modern medical procedures as well as the diet, training, rules, offensive creativity and longer seasons that today’s players can take advantage of? With his arm and let’s assume more mobility, I think Joe’s stats would be up there with today’s players. But then again, Joe wasn’t voted in because of stats.

Nonetheless, we can go around in circles about a lot of players’ worthiness for the PFHOF, when should we schedule the herf? 🇨🇮
dkeage
6 years ago
Is this a HOF QB?

Career highlights and awards
2× Super Bowl champion (XV, XVIII)
Super Bowl MVP (XV)
NFL Comeback Player of the Year (1980)
AFC Rookie of the Year (1971)
Longest touchdown pass: 99 yards (tied)
Heisman Trophy (1970)
Maxwell Award (1970)
Walter Camp Award (1970)
Sporting News Player of the Year (1970)
UPI Player of the Year (1970)
Consensus All-American (1970)


](*,)
Palama
6 years ago

Is this a HOF QB?

Career highlights and awards
2× Super Bowl champion (XV, XVIII)
Super Bowl MVP (XV)
NFL Comeback Player of the Year (1980)
AFC Rookie of the Year (1971)
Longest touchdown pass: 99 yards (tied)
Heisman Trophy (1970)
Maxwell Award (1970)
Walter Camp Award (1970)
Sporting News Player of the Year (1970)
UPI Player of the Year (1970)
Consensus All-American (1970)


](*,)

dkeage wrote:



It’s a travesty that Jim Plunkett is not yet in the HOF!
fishinguitarman
6 years ago
Yup Eli is HOF
8trackdisco
6 years ago

Yup Eli is HOF

fishinguitarman wrote:



Eli has done more with less (chromosomes). Slack jawed dullard.
fishinguitarman
6 years ago
Eli is your hero!
tailgater
6 years ago

I never got past "Don't bother drafting me, because I won't play for your chitty team....just ask my daddy."

dstieger wrote:



I've always felt the same way.

At least when Elway played hardball during the draft, he was prepared to actually play hardball.
Eli, notsomuch.
dstieger
6 years ago

Is this a HOF QB?

Career highlights and awards
2× Super Bowl champion (XV, XVIII)
Super Bowl MVP (XV)
NFL Comeback Player of the Year (1980)
AFC Rookie of the Year (1971)
Longest touchdown pass: 99 yards (tied)
Heisman Trophy (1970)
Maxwell Award (1970)
Walter Camp Award (1970)
Sporting News Player of the Year (1970)
UPI Player of the Year (1970)
Consensus All-American (1970)


](*,)

dkeage wrote:


Is there a college HOF? If so, does someone care?

There's the real Eli problem. If he gets in, does it open the door for Plunkett, Gannon, Flacco.....????? Not a fan
MACS
6 years ago
Joe Namath? IMO, not worthy, no matter his impact, his ability / stats do not warrant it. I feel the same way about Bradshaw. Namath had a lot more interceptions than TD's for his career and Bradshaw only had 2 more TD's than INT's. Their completion percentages were barely 50/50.

Bradshaw was a mediocre player on a great team. Joe made a bold prediction and it came true.
frankj1
6 years ago
Pro football HOF...everyone gets in.
Palama
6 years ago
Fixed it fo’ ya:

Pro football HOF...everyone that’s not a guard, center, right tackle, safety, special teams gunner, punter or place kicker gets in.

frankj1 wrote:


frankj1
6 years ago

Fixed it fo’ ya:


Palama wrote:


obrigado
Palama
6 years ago

obrigado

frankj1 wrote:



De nada
corey sellers
6 years ago
Hell I am trying to post on everything
USNGunner
6 years ago
Damn MACS, you had to drag Terry into this?

I would say that there would be damned few folks in the hall of fame if it weren't for the teams they played with. The best quarterback in the world couldn't do shiite if he spent his whole game laying on his back with stars in his head.

You know as well as I do, leadership matters. I think Terry did a helluva job. And Namath, for his time did a helluva job. Football was a competely different game back then. So pass records really can't be compared to modern stats.

IMHO of course. 👍
frankj1
6 years ago

Damn MACS, you had to drag Terry into this?

I would say that there would be damned few folks in the hall of fame if it weren't for the teams they played with. The best quarterback in the world couldn't do shiite if he spent his whole game laying on his back with stars in his head.

You know as well as I do, leadership matters. I think Terry did a helluva job. And Namath, for his time did a helluva job. Football was a competely different game back then. So pass records really can't be compared to modern stats.

IMHO of course. 👍

USNGunner wrote:


sounds right.
MACS
6 years ago

sounds right.

frankj1 wrote:



Sounds like BS to me. Lynn Swann and John Stallworth made so many acrobatic catches because Bradshaw was inaccurate. Hell, even Bradshaw will tell you he sucked! His team made him.
USNGunner
6 years ago

Sounds like BS to me. Lynn Swann and John Stallworth made so many acrobatic catches because Bradshaw was inaccurate. Hell, even Bradshaw will tell you he sucked! His team made him.

MACS wrote:



That wasn't really the point. I'm just saying that it's a team sport. Without support, no one would ever know how good any of them are. I liked Terry, he was a personable cat. But it's not really that big a deal. Just an observation.
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