and Trump never would've been POTUS if he ran as a Dem...

If he did what she says he did,
it should have been addressed and dealt with long before now...

I have no idea about anyone's innocence or guilt, mostly because so many maneuvers take place to prevent the truth from getting out, but like everyone else I get swayed by actions swirling around the accusations.

We'll need to see what else develops in this Biden case, and I am susceptible to the creep factor that has been circulating for a few years now. There'll be more, but maybe not the extremely rare kill shot. So for now, it feels believable.

Let's not forget other Dems like Franken, Hart, and even Clinton who were either ruined or permanently damaged as it became easy to sort out fact from fake news, even Tom Eagleton was destroyed by the GOP with plenty of help from the media, and he did nothing wrong except suffer from and seek treatment for depression!..

sort of backs up TW's point about media chasing money, fame and ratings over personal partisan beliefs. They are whores first and foremost and they did put out a lot of damaging facts without cover up regarding the Dems above..


But I will admit to doubting Trump's innocence based on a few things we do know to be factual as well, not sensational...

Trump had his supposedly good friend who owned the National Supermarket Rag pay for exclusive rights to the story of one, maybe 2 of the accusers, and then once he owned the story(ies) and had signed agreements to the exclusive rights to tell the story(ies) he locked them away so they would never be published! Kind of an odd thing to do in a profit driven industry built on sensational sexual gossip, don't you agree?
We can take a stab at the motives.

Trump had his (at the time) trusted personal attorney Cohen pay to silence another accuser or two.

Trump may have been bluffing but he was taped bragging about sexually grabbing women cuz he had the power to do so.

Looking back at all of the above, Franken's transgressions may have been the least egregious (still significantly disgusting and illegal) of all that anyone has been accused of doing, yet he made the swiftest moves to admit to and pay for the damage he had done.

He had other accusations and accusers. And power plays in. Bill Clinton's power factored in (rightfully so). I think some of Harvey Epsteins accusers probably "let him" as well.

Lets take Biden and Trump off the ballot and start again.

Yeah he does have other accusers and I’m not a Cheeto defender I’m just sick of the half truth bullschtein.

Was listening to this album and laughed when this track came up, someone should do a video with Biden’s cringe photos and this song:

one of my favorite albums and songs

Wait! Al and Frank might disagree a bit???????

prolly, but what do you mean?

Al Frank And sounds like the ex senator though.

Trump is bigly, by far, more than Biden in this ditch...not surprising that those who gave Trump a pass are unwilling to do the same for Biden, whose transgressions are far less numerous...

be interesting to see how all the civil suits (weren't there enough accusers to qualify as a class-action? 17?) against Trump that were queuing up before the 2016 elections shake out after he leaves office

Those lawsuits all go away after he’s out and the DNC pulls the funding.

Biden though...oh he did that s$&t.

Hammer time

That is the best idea i have heard

sad but true

wonder who's paying the bills for Biden's accuser...Corsi...Koch...Adelson

Prolly Hillary.

If he pissed off Hillary he's not long for this world... 😟

TRUMP 2020!!!

I assume the statute of limitations on the plagiarism issue that took him out of the 1988 race (which he was leading) has made that a non-issue? Or are these just different times and we accept the fact that all politicians lie?

For me I say get rid of both of these guys and start again. But since that wont happen I suggest everyone start a list of such transgressions or accusation of transitions for each and compare and contrast. As for lying.... if there is a contest in that category it would be globetrotters vs. washington generals

But for some they will compile a list of one and discount the other and there you have it. (by the way I heard the same thought about the "plagiarism" on Rush the other day. I'm not suggesting that's where it came from, just that it is the new thing in some circles.