rfenst
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6 years ago

Oh and rfenst sorry if I hijacked your thread. If YOU are bothered by it I’ll cease and desist.

teedubbya wrote:


Please carry on!
victor809
6 years ago

Hadn’t heard and don’t know about that part. I do know the bishop was appalled.

Trump is totally disconnected from reality much like Nixon was (thanks rfenst.... good read). Hopefully that is becoming obvious to more folks.

teedubbya wrote:



I don't know their rank.... but apparently church members were using the church patio to distribute water etc. They were driven off with the teargas.

According to the priests the protesters didn't do anything until teargas started flying in.

but they're priests, and prone to lying.
zitotczito
6 years ago

Notice he didn’t go in the church. Good move. His strength hasn’t grown that much yet. Give it time.

teedubbya wrote:



A little difficult since the church was boarded up due to the damage from the previous nights arson. I guess the President could have torn down the boards like the rioters do.
victor809
6 years ago
Not sure I understand the entire point of his going there to take a photo. ... I mean, other than to have an excuse to push the protesters out of the way. It's not like he has any connection to that church, or any other (which is not a criticism from me).... it makes zero sense to suddenly want a photo holding a bible in front of a church.
teedubbya
6 years ago

A little difficult since the church was boarded up due to the damage from the previous nights arson. I guess the President could have torn down the boards like the rioters do.

zitotczito wrote:



He absolutely could have coordinated with them and gone in. He didn’t.
teedubbya
6 years ago
This Support Trump Derangement (STD) is strong.
Speyside
6 years ago
Doc, I was watching it live on TV. Did they have a permit? No. Were they peaceful? Yes. Were there flash bangs? Yes. Were they launched into a peaceful crowd? Yes. Ghandi and King didn't approve of violence. Did they approve of peaceful civil disobedience? Yes. Trump used elements of federal military on American soil. I cannot accept that under any circumstance other than armed insurrection or armed rebellion. To do so with peaceful protesters is pure evil.

What he did was perfectly legal as they were on federal land. But that doesn't make it right. It was fachist and totalitarian. If he sends federal military into states without governors asking that will be illegal and he should be removed as president. In fact I think it is legally his cabinets responsibility to remove him from office if he is no longer fit to govern.
delta1
6 years ago
that bearded dude from Detroit?

the one who chased after Nixon so they could take a smiling photo together?

that was Jesus...


thanks rfenst, for that moment in history about a POTUS, since disgraced, trying to respond to a crisis in a compassionate way by having a dialogue with protesters
delta1
6 years ago

Doc, I was watching it live on TV. Did they have a permit? No. Were they peaceful? Yes. Were there flash bangs? Yes. Were they launched into a peaceful crowd? Yes. Ghandi and King didn't approve of violence. Did they approve of peaceful civil disobedience? Yes. Trump used elements of federal military on American soil. I cannot accept that under any circumstance other than armed insurrection or armed rebellion. To do so with peaceful protesters is pure evil.

What he did was perfectly legal as they were on federal land. But that doesn't make it right. It was fachist and totalitarian. If he sends federal military into states without governors asking that will be illegal and he should be removed as president. In fact I think it is legally his cabinets responsibility to remove him from office if he is no longer fit to govern.

Speyside wrote:




you'd think that the 2nd Amendment folks would've been the most outraged...imagine those words spoken by Obama...

STD...
JadeRose
6 years ago
From the Religion News Service....

SPIRITUAL POLITICS
Trump makes Nixon look good


In the early morning hours of May 9 fifty years ago, Richard Nixon visited the Lincoln Memorial in perhaps the strangest moment of his presidency. A massive demonstration against the Vietnam war was taking place in Washington in response to his decision to bomb Cambodia and the killings of demonstrators at Kent and Jackson State that ensued.

Accompanied only by his Filipino manservant, the White House doctor, and a Secret Service team, Nixon made his way among the thousands of demonstrators camped out at the Memorial and spoke with a few of them. Although he later dictated an account that paints a self-portrait of a strong leader dispensing some important truths to his critics, those who heard him told the press that he rambled irrelevantly much of the time.

After increasingly perturbed Secret Service men finally bundled him back into his limousine, Nixon insisted on being taken to the Capitol, where he took a seat in the chamber of the House of Representatives, signed a Bible for one of the women cleaning up, and then went to have breakfast at the Mayflower Hotel before returning to the White House.

The standard interpretation of the episode is that it shows a man unbalanced by the pressure of events, and that it marked a turning point towards increasingly erratic presidential behavior. I wouldn’t contest this view.

But compared with President Trump's walk to St. John’s Church on Monday, Nixon’s venture has something genuine, even noble, about it. Here was the leader of our nation, sufficiently troubled in his mind to venture out among his opponents, all but alone, and after a fashion to engage with them.

Where Nixon went is also worth appreciating. Abraham Lincoln, the founder of his political party, had long been the central figure in America’s civil religion: the president who saved the Union, freed the enslaved, died a martyr’s death, and vouchsafed to his people some of the most profound and inspiring words a country’s leader has ever written.

That Nixon felt moved to go to Lincoln’s shrine was deeply symbolic. Altogether, the episode is Shakespearean. By contrast, Trump’s stunt is the stuff of Saturday Night Live.

Here was a president, embarrassed by leaked reports that he’d scurried into the White House bunker in the face of protests outside, sending armed troops to forcibly drive off peaceful demonstrators so he could process across the street to stand in front of a damaged church and flaunt a Bible. To say that this was a photo op is an insult to presidential photo ops.

Trump’s people not only failed to inform church leaders that he was coming, they had clergy and laity forcibly expelled from the church patio, lest the President encounter them directly and, God forbid, inquire after the state of their building.

When Trump hefted the Bible and held it up, a reporter, imagining that the volume held some significance for him, asked if it was a family Bible. “It’s a Bible,” he grunted. So much for that. If Trump rarely darkens the door of a church, at least you can say he darkened this one.

Recalling that Hegel said somewhere that “all great world-historic facts and personages appear, so to speak, twice,” Karl Marx famously wrote, “He forgot to add: the first time as tragedy, the second time as farce.” Case in point.

https://religionnews.com/2020/06/02/trump-makes-nixon-look-good/ 


Trump is a greasy, syphilitic pig. How anyone that continues to support his Presidency can look at themselves in the mirror is completely mystifying to me.


teedubbya
6 years ago
STDs run rampant.

His little trip yesterday was fucked up in so many ways. And it was right in front of us. Easy to see hard to ignore. But STD has a tight grip on some.
teedubbya
6 years ago
Wait... how did fucked get through? I was expecting bung hole symbols
DrafterX
6 years ago
Trump signed an order and stuff..... 😟
JadeRose
6 years ago
Speaking of bung hole symbols....Hi Drafter!
rfenst
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6 years ago
TW posted the word "fucked". Where are the minotaurs when we need them most?
victor809
6 years ago

TW posted the word "****". Where are the minotaurs when we need them most?

rfenst wrote:



I heard they got the 'rona.

RIP the minotaurs.
rfenst
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6 years ago
Dam!- that felt good!
DrafterX
6 years ago
****... 😟
DrafterX
6 years ago
JadeRose
6 years ago
****pissfuckcuntcocksuckermotherfuckertits
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