Mr. Jones
5 years ago
Don't believe T.G....

He ain't no "engineer or I.T. GUY "....he's a federal LAW DOG who uses a laptop like everyone else on here.
frankj1
5 years ago

Got my current laptop on Adam's recommendation.

The brutha knows his stuff. Just sayin'.

MACS wrote:


the dude hates latkes!
I'd be wary.
Mr. Jones
5 years ago
T.G. has fried several laptops in "dubious wet environments"

i.e.:

His first experimental commodore 64 LAPTOP SHORTED OUT WHEN JAMES CAAN BLEW A THREE WEEK LOAD ON CHARGING PORT IN THE PLAYBOY MANSION GROTTO Back in 1984....
Thunder.Gerbil
5 years ago

Just get the i9 and be done with it.

[sarcasm]

Stogie1020 wrote:



I'm getting a custom sicker made for the computer case, it says "i11". That's faster, it's four more than i7. It goes to eleven.
frankj1
5 years ago

T.G. has fried several laptops in "dubious wet environments"

i.e.:

His first experimental commodore 64 LAPTOP SHORTED OUT WHEN JAMES CAAN BLEW A THREE WEEK LOAD ON CHARGING PORT IN THE PLAYBOY MANSION GROTTO Back in 1984....

Mr. Jones wrote:


outstanding!!!
opelmanta1900
5 years ago

Hi Robert,

Based on the information that you provided, the short answer is, yes that particular machine (HP 14-dq2033d) will likely meet your needs for now, but it is unlikely it will exceed them. At least not by much. Depending what you might use it for or how long you keep it around, this might be an issue.

If you don't mind dropping an extra $100, there is that same chassis available with an i5 and an extra 4GB of memory available for $549 right now. The difference in the cost of those two upgraded components is more than the $100. 50% more memory, about 40% (on paper) more CPU performance. Can't say if will be 50% faster or not, it might be less, or it could be more, it depends where the bottlenecks are in that machine's design. It's still an entry level notebook, but the chassis seems to work for you and you appear to like it, so no sense changing models or brands.

I do think though, that you would be happier with the slightly upgraded model. In 30 years of engineering, IT, system integration & automation, I have NEVER once heard someone say "That computer is too fast, I hate it. I wish I had bought the lesser model."

The link for the i5/12GB version for $549 is:
https://www.costco.com/hp-14%22-laptop---11th-gen-intel-core-i5-1135g7---1080p.product.100699352.html 

Thunder.Gerbil wrote:


In the market for a new laptop myself... chrome books are absolute garbage...

Preferably I'm looking for something than can simultaneously run a zoom meeting and stream (legally, of course) a ufc fight....

Would this computer be able to handle that? If I'm willing to spend a few hundred more, is there anything significantly better?
rfenst
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5 years ago

Got my current laptop on Adam's recommendation.

The brutha knows his stuff. Just sayin'.

MACS wrote:


I pm'd him (after asking RAM's permission of course) and asked him for his thoughts. I am going to follow his advice on this. He's right.
rfenst
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5 years ago

the dude hates latkes!
I'd be wary.

frankj1 wrote:


VERY, VERY. VERY wary.
Stogie1020
5 years ago

I'm getting a custom sicker made for the computer case, it says "i11". That's faster, it's four more than i7. It goes to eleven.

Thunder.Gerbil wrote:


Well played....

Also, trust NEVER trust someone who hates latkes.

FWIW, a lot of the "can my computer do these two things at once" issues really have more to do with your internet service bandwith and the quality of your wifi router than with the actual computer. The problem is, you gotta be wicked nerdy to get the good stuff running right.
opelmanta1900
5 years ago



FWIW, a lot of the "can my computer do these two things at once" issues really have more to do with your internet service bandwith and the quality of your wifi router than with the actual computer. The problem is, you gotta be wicked nerdy to get the good stuff running right.

Stogie1020 wrote:


Wife works from home now so we upgraded to the best service and equipment xfinity has to offer in our area... it's 1000mb download speed I believe... I know nothing about the router but we had to switch from our old one to this one to handle the higher speed (according to xfinity)...

Wife's computer works flawlessly but the chrome books can only handle a 200mb download speed.... hence the need to upgrade to a computer than can do 2 things at once... I'm pretty sure it's the computer...
Notthe1
5 years ago
I have an i5 with 8G of Ram. It does a Zoom, and legal streaming Every Saturday night.

I wish I had sprung for 16G of ram, I feel it would work better, no evidence that It is not working great now though.
Notthe1
5 years ago
I have an i5 with 8G of Ram. It does a Zoom, and legal streaming Every Saturday night.

I wish I had sprung for 16G of ram, I feel it would work better, no evidence that It is not working great now though.
opelmanta1900
5 years ago
Do you have 2?
Stogie1020
5 years ago
Opel, totally agree on the chromebooks limited capabilities.

The wifi NIC may be limited in the speeds it can handle.

I feel like they were designed for a very limited use, but stores try to sell them as cheap full-function laptops, which leads to some mild disappointment.
Stogie1020
5 years ago

Do you have 2?

opelmanta1900 wrote:


It appears he really has an i10 with 16GB RAM.
opelmanta1900
5 years ago



The wifi NIC may be limited in the speeds it can handle.

Stogie1020 wrote:


How do I fix that? Change out the wifi bearings or something?
Thunder.Gerbil
5 years ago

It appears he really has an i10 with 16GB RAM.

Stogie1020 wrote:



Mine goes to eleven.
tonygraz
5 years ago
Jones - I still have working Commodore systems, but haven't used them in a while. Newest laptop is a 17" quad core AMD and it works fine. I have enough trouble with that small a screen and can't imagine trying to do online stuff with a phone. My desktops are I5s - one with W10 and 2 with W7. I'm finally getting used to 10, but I still don't like it.
clickbangdead
5 years ago
Since a bunch of people mentioned downloads in particular, figured I'd put on my nerd hat and mention a few things:

If you buy a device and it comes with ANY sort of AV like Mcaffee or Norton or whatnot, go ahead and get that garbage off there first thing. The built in Windows defender is quite robust malware protection and is free and uses little resources.

If you are using Chrome or Edge, make sure to install uBlock Origin from the Chrome/Edge extension store. You will be amazed at how fast and responsive sites are when the trackers and ads are blocked. It allows selective blocking, so if you've got a site that requires some site to have it's ad/tracker to work, you allow just that. I've got some older net-book style devices that I occasionally use, and the web is basically useless without these tools involved.

Watch out for CCLeaner, it is easy to weirdly break your system with it in a way that cause oddball problems down the road. In addition, there have been issues with malware on their update service in the past. I used to recommend it, but I no longer do, unless you have a know-clean copy and are familiar with what you can do with it and which activities in it are snake-oil fixes.

Lastly, pay attention to the advertised upload speeds on your Cable connection. Poor upload speeds are endemic to Cable systems, and while not intuitive, can impact the ability to use things like Zoom, Teams and other meeting apps, or even some secure transfer activities (mostly corp VPN's, but I've seen other apps that require more 'acknowledged' packets be sent take a severe hit). I have a mere 75/75 fiber connection, and I'll take that any day over a weirdly asymmetrical 10/500 cable connection. When we moved from a 5/75 connection to the 75/75, our VPN connections became much faster and stable, and the wife had a much easier time of it (she worked remotely full time prior to the pandemic). Also, if you are using a cloud backup service, the upload speeds are a godsend.
Thunder.Gerbil
5 years ago

In the market for a new laptop myself... chrome books are absolute garbage...

Preferably I'm looking for something than can simultaneously run a zoom meeting and stream (legally, of course) a ufc fight....

Would this computer be able to handle that? If I'm willing to spend a few hundred more, is there anything significantly better?

opelmanta1900 wrote:




It might. Two simultaneous video streams/windows on a 14" screen might be a bit hard to see any detail though.

Probably be easier with a larger screen, just watch out for the systems that use the lower resolution screens to save cost. There are still a lot of 15" 1366x768 and 17" 1600x900 out there.

Discrete graphics chipsets are nice, not sure you quite need them though. Besides a better/faster graphics processor, they aren't sharing system memory. They do drive the price way up though.

You could probably get by just fine with more memory or bigger CPU and more memory. I haven't really looked around yet at what's out there. When I looked up Robert's computer, I thought I saw an add on Costco about another HP Pavilion that was like a 15.6" 1920x1080 Ryzen 5 w/ 16GB that was $200 off so $650 IIRC. Pavilion is an entry/bargain-line class system, but, if all you are going to do is tote it around your house, they are probably fine.
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