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WSC wrote:

If you've ever wondered what the actual volume of that box-pressed 60 x 6" cigar is, first you have to measure the sides of the rectangle, because a box-pressed cigar is not a true cylinder. Take, for example, the lamentably discontinued Fallen Angel Double Toro, advertised as a 60/64 x 6" cylinder. It's actually a 56/64 x 40/64 x 6" rectangular tank. The volume of this box-pressed cigar is as follows:

Rectangular tank (56/64 x 40/64 x 6" / .875 x .625 x 6")
Volume = .875 × .625 × 6
= 3.2812 inches(3)

The volume of the advertised 60 x 6" cylinder is considerably higher:

Cylinder (60/64 x 6" / .937 x 6.000)
Volume = Pi x r(2) x h
= Pi × .46859(2) × 6
= 1.3169535 x Pi
= 4.1373 inches(3)

The true volume of a box-pressed Fallen Angel Double Toro is, in other words, approximately 79% of the volume of a true cylindrical 60 x 6" cigar. So if you think you're getting a true 60-gauge cigar (and all that extra tobacco) in a box press, you have miscalculated.

WSC wrote:

The box pressed cigars start out circular but then decides it wants to be identified differently so it undergoes a physical transformation. They used to be called Tranny cigars but it was determined that the word Tranny can have negative connotations. "Box-pressed" is considered more PC until it's not.

BuckyB93 wrote:

"Shape doesn’t matter if it’s the same amount of tobacco."

But it isn't the same amount. How could it be?
A 56x40 shape (a rectangle) has a wrapper circumference of 192 and an area of 2240 (L x W).
A 60x60 shape (a circle) has a circumference of 188.4 (2 x Pi x R) but an area of 2826 (Pi x R squared).
Given these factors, the cylinder must have a greater volume than the rectangular tank.

All this, of course, would be moot if cigars were marketed by weight as well as volume. But manufacturers and marketers do not disclose the weights of their cigars. The weight is the missing factor. And it's crucial.

If you had the choice, all other factors being equal, of identically shaped cigars, one weighing 18 grams and the other weighing 23 grams, which would you select? Which would be the best value? The answer is obvious. And that's why cigar manufacturers and marketers talk about everything -- length and ring gauge and wrapper origin and binder credentials and filler mysticism and blender biographies -- except weights. In my view, the average weight of a cigar should be listed alongside its other credentials. Because a 23-gram cigar -- all other factors being equal -- will burn longer and be a better value for the price -- than an 18-gram cigar.

WSC wrote: