MoreBeer
2 years ago
Normally, cigars I receive from Cbid are above 65 and usually closer to 70. In my last order however, a few boxes of sticks were reading 57-60 using my cigarmedic device which has been accurate (have 2 of them). Boxes of Undercrown Toro's and Diesel Whiskey Sherry Toro's were 57-59.

Tried the Diesel and it split almost immediately and tasted off. The Undercrown didn't split but tasted somewhat bitter and I've had at least 100+ of these cigars in the past. The Oliva Masterblend Churchills, 2 10 packs were also around there. All the other cigars about 60 of them were okay at 67-70. Would rather get them a little wet and have them sit as opposed to dry. Not going to complain to them unless it happens again.
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ZRX1200
2 years ago
Where do you live, and were you smoking indoors or outdoors.

This isn’t a high RH% time of year….so if they split or exploded it’s probably because they were HIGHER RH not LOWER.

Your claim is counterintuitive therefore by the counsel of the high order of Platinum Members™️ you are wrong.
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MoreBeer
2 years ago
Nah...they were low bud. Feel it as well....like a rock. I smoke indoors. Have a small isolated room in my basement where its about 68 degrees and currently 50% or so RH. Sorry to wreck your thesis.
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ZRX1200
2 years ago
Rh differential and temp are the two biggest factors.

So read again, then try again. You made my point for me. If your cigars were lower rh then it would be less likely to happen.

Your device is wrong.
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MidnightToker( • )( • )
2 years ago
Not sure how true this is but I have heard the only accurate cigar humidity testers are the ones that cost thousands and require the entire cigar to be placed in a machine. The "probe" testers are simply hygrometers with a probe so the ambient humidity will affect the reading.

You're best bet is to just rest everything for a month. That's enough time for the cigar to reach the humidity setting in your humidor. Even if they went in at 57-60%, they'll be fine. They're actually fine to smoke at that range, some ppl keep their cigars at 60%.
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MoreBeer
2 years ago

Not sure how true this is but I have heard the only accurate cigar humidity testers are the ones that cost thousands and require the entire cigar to be placed in a machine. The "probe" testers are simply hygrometers with a probe so the ambient humidity will affect the reading.

You're best bet is to just rest everything for a month. That's enough time for the cigar to reach the humidity setting in your humidor. Even if they went in at 57-60%, they'll be fine. They're actually fine to smoke at that range, some ppl keep their cigars at 60%.

MidnightToker( • )( • ) wrote:



I'm somewhat sure these will be okay after sitting about a month or so. They ARE in fact dry, regardless of what the other guy is saying. Been smoking cigars 30 years and I know if they're dry or not. Additionally, regardless of how accurate that probe is, if it reads 65-68-70 whatever in other cigars and with these its at 57 they are low.
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danmdevries
2 years ago
If the roll feels hard as a rock, it's wet.

If it's splitting when trying to smoke it, it's wet.

If you're getting bitter sour flavors, it's wet.

I prefer to smoke in the low 60's range to avoid those two issues. 58-62 is perfect.

The reason your probe device is reading dry is the foot probably is dry, it's going to dry out faster than the rest of the cigar. It's reading higher on the ones you pulled from storage because they've equalized in storage. Cut the cigar in half and probe the middle.

This is a great example of why it's not recommended to smoke ROTT. Let them rest and acclimate to your preferred storage/smoking conditions for a month or three.
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tonygraz
2 years ago
You should know enough not to smoke a cigar right off the truck. I almost always put them in storage for at least 2 weeks before I smoke one. You never said where you are from and conditions during shipment is something that is not controlled. Dan is right about your testing, but I would never cut one in half to find out.
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MidnightToker( • )( • )
2 years ago

regardless of how accurate that probe is, if it reads 65-68-70 whatever in other cigars and with these its at 57 they are low.

MoreBeer wrote:


Yes, but if what I heard was true that statement would only be true if you tested all the cigars when the ambient humidity was exactly the same which I doubt.
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MidnightToker( • )( • )
2 years ago
He didn't say he pulled the ones that tested okay from storage though. He said previous shipments tested ok.
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LeeBot
2 years ago
I agree that smoking them as soon as they arrive is just not going to give you good results. Too often, it's wasting a cigar that I might have otherwise enjoyed. I consider ROTT anything that I've had less than two weeks, and I rarely ever smoke ROTT.

I bought a box of AF Cuban Belicosos, froze them, and put them in storage in early February. I'm not even going to try one until late April. That first one will still not be as good as the ones that I smoke this summer.
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delta1
2 years ago
depending on time of year, ambient RH, and which of the storage containers or humidors I pull from, my cigars range from 59-65 RH...they all smoke fine and do not exhibit any symptoms of being too dry...

dry cigars seem to burn fast, taste harsh, leave a dry mouthfeel and often burn unevenly as the tighter part of the booked bunch or a tighter entubado burns slower than the looser rolled leaves...


wonder if the dryer boxes of Undercrowns and Diesels were from another storage facility... or a part of the storage center that has uneven RH? You should speak to Princessa at CS...
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jeebling
2 years ago
Far from the bench test equipment you guys are discussing…but from the big A shopping site, I love these tiny things:

TASOGEN 12 Pack Mini Digital Thermometer Hygrometer Indoor Temperature and Humidity Gauge Meter Monitor Fahrenheit (℉) for Humidor,Greenhouse,Reptile Tank,Home,Jars
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24132413
2 years ago
Well if they are as dry as you say simply put them in your humidor at 75% and in a day or two they will be fine. Although I've ordered a 100+ monthly since LoL 2009 and never had any "dry tobacco ' issues. Not once. And I've burned dozens of Diesels and Undercrowns. I think maybe you've been shooting to much heroin and simply have serious narcotic dry mouth. 😬😬😬😂😂😂😂😂😂 just kidding. Hope you're sticks moisen up for you.✌🏼💪🏼🙏🏼
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MoreBeer
2 years ago
Had some other sticks from this shipment that tested okay and they taste fine and as they normally do. The cigars that were dry will in fact come back to normal RH although most of the oils have likely been depleted and they'll never taste the same as well maintained cigars. They burned fast and tasted off. Smoking a New World now which tested at 68 and its fine, tastes like they always do with that "infused nicotine flavor" and burning great. I'll try a few of the dried out sticks in a few weeks after sitting at 65-68 and post my findings.
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CamoRoon
2 years ago

Well if they are as dry as you say simply put them in your humidor at 75% and in a day or two they will be fine.

24132413 wrote:



I agree. I generally put newly received cigars in the humidor (or whatever you are using) still sealed in cello or wrapped box, for a week or two before thinking of trying them. Some of the 5 packs look more like they are wrapped in plastic rather than cello. It doesn't seem like plastic would breathe so I cut a few slots through the plastic (between cigars) with a razor knife. Sudden significant changes in temperature or humidity are a problem waiting to happen.
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CamoRoon
2 years ago
PS I know it may sound anal, but I put little 3/8" x 1/2" stick-on labels on everything when I receive it, noting the month and year I bought them. Once I open a 5 pack, I label each individual stick. With about 500 sticks, it gets easy to lose track of what is old and new. I believe in the redeeming quality of aging all but mild cigars.
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MidnightToker( • )( • )
2 years ago

PS I know it may sound anal, but I put little 3/8" x 1/2" stick-on labels on everything when I receive it, noting the month and year I bought them. Once I open a 5 pack, I label each individual stick. With about 500 sticks, it gets easy to lose track of what is old and new. I believe in the redeeming quality of aging all but mild cigars.

CamoRoon wrote:


I do the same. How else can you keep track of how old stuff is? A ledger maybe but that seems more confusing and difficult.
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CamoRoon
2 years ago
Funny you should mention a ledger. I started a WORD document with the relevant data (brand, blend, date bought, quantity, length & ring gauge) and what humidor or humidor drawer they are located in. All I need is the discipline to update deposits and withdrawals. It's better than digging through everything because you forgot what you have.
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MoreBeer
2 years ago
About the comment I've seen here "if they feel hard, they're wet"? Now....if a cigar is overpacked it could be wet and feel hard. I've had this happen many times, especially with Joya de Nicaragua Antano and a few boxes of Oliva V's. But if its hard, measures dry and there's little resistance to the draw and it tastes like garbage....guess what? Its dry. That's my Mensa take on the subject.
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