After the great experience that I had with the Xmas Cigar Exchange (received way more than I sent),it really sucks to hear someone would do this to you.

There's a guy on HP named Mcraney,I wonder if it's him? X

Hope you didn't lose too much Jazzman. Lesson learned: Don't trade with a handle you haven't seen before. I've been posting here about a year. Pretty much fall into the hopelessly addicted category. I have never met any of you and yet....it would bother me to be vilified here. It's a strange internet phenomenon. I guess it's not so strange to be honorable though. At least I hope not.

Jazz: Thanks for letting us know who he is...I hope others did not suffer the same bad luck. Hope you didn't lose much.
Ed

jazz- sorry to hear it. you sent followup emails asking WTF, right? ive done numerous trades on different boards and have only once been disappointed. every other time ive gotten at leeast what the deal was for and usually more. email me; madpeoples*yahoo and ill send you some stuff to make it up.

x- mcraney on hp is also an old regular at cf. he is in the midwest somewhere, i think, not texas.

I thought the same thing as X as soon as I read 'craney'.No matter,post his name and address here and on H.P.,which unfortunately had an influx of lurking wackos go active after JR shut down.But two months,man are you waiting for this guy to return your credit cards too?

And ask for references.No one has asked me for one in over three years,still I'd respect rather than take offence someone who did so today.

Anyone like the blacklist page idea that I suggested?

I sent an assortment for him to try--nothing great. His end was supposed to be 10 Arture Fuente Curly Head Deluxe Maduros...No great loss. Learned a great lesson. Don't trade with strangers unless you do a background check first...

I'm in the process of transacting my 1st trade right now. I have no background to check. My trade partner will make out very well. Sometimes you should take the chance. I think a "Blacklist" of known offenders is cool though. The only problem is who will maintain it?

I could maintain it. I could make out a form like we had for the cigar exchange and I can make the form post to a webpage for us to see and use.

Great idea!!!

Charlie

The Gestapo of cigar trading? This could get ugly.

Send him a certified letter that has legal overtones...bluff if you don't have a friend who is an attorney.

I'm sure after he reads this, he'll call the bluff!

Todog, shhhhhhhh!!!! It's a secret!

I have a cousin in N.Y. (aka "The Praying Mantis") who will gladly solve this problem for you. He is real handy with a cattle prod, lol. Seriously, put him/her out there for all of us to get a piece of.

First I was gonna say 10 curly heads aint that big of a deal. But you have been smoking those Bad Frogs.

Sorry for your loss.

Why don't you post his mailing address. Then we can all send letters telling him what we think of him.

Plus if anyone lives or visits the area they can pay him a visit.

Here is a list of bad traders from another cigar forum, that one guy set-up in his 'profile' ...

http://members.cox.net/ormazd/ScumbagPage.htm 

Make sure you have your sound on ... this is too funny, and pretty clever!

Jazz, don't feel bad about "outing" a guy under these circumstances. Just post the facts and so others can beware. It's the right thing to do. Also, I'm sorry to hear you got stiffed. It's not worth the effort of retaliation with lawyers and stuff, but e-mail me for some advice. baumfr aol com

X - I seriously doubt it was McRaney.